Delaware and Raritan River Railroad-General Discussion

As to the adult communities, lots of time to mull over or invent grievances, and little else to occupy the time of some of the less active. Maybe we could get them interested in train watching: "Mary, I saw the most disgusting pornographic graffiti on the side of a boxcar today!" Or maybe that would get them interested in train watching.

@CharlieL “Maybe we could get them interested in train watching: "Mary, I saw the most disgusting pornographic graffiti on the side of a boxcar today!"

LMAO. Then two weeks later here comes a boxcar covered in gang signs like TLWA, RACE, and stuff like that.

That’ll get ‘em talking!!

JohnFromJersey wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:54 am

AceMacSD wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:34 pm CJPat is correct about Beacon and the transloading. The town of Freehold pulled the plug on them loading across Throckmorton for the reasons he stated. Aside from the heavy equipment crossing the busy road, the area was being littered with small pieces of metal. This was causing a lot of flat tires and if memory serves me correctly it was the folks at the prison who were the loudest voices to put an end to loading across Throckmorton.

Ah, that makes sense. IMO the town of Freehold should've thrown some money at Beacon so they could install a proper siding into their property if they had the authority to shut it down like that.

AceMacSD wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:34 pm As for Nestle there products are shipped in those containers from the country of origin and then put onto those NS chassis once the container is off loaded from the ship at the port. It would not make business sense to unload the container to put the product into a rail car to transport it about 50 miles away. It adds more delay in getting the product, costs more in labor, and there is no designated facility to do such a thing.

They are containers though, they don't have to be unloaded and then re-loaded into a railcar. You can just put the container on a well car, and send it to Nestle. If they did that, it would be far cheaper to have a single train bring a few well cars of containers every day, than have to pay for multiple drivers to drive them in via truck.

I think well/intermodal cars are allowed on the FIT but CR didn't offer frequent enough service for anyone to be really interested in it. Common theme here.

AceMacSD wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:34 pm The idea of a transloading facility coming into Ocean County has already been talked about within several local communities as well as the reactivation of service on the Toms River. Opposition to trains coming back to the line is mounting as the word spreads. This is going to be a tough one but the rail will prevail.

The train came before them. And rail will prevail, as it should. Would they rather have a million trucks on the road?

glenn cannizzaro wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:12 am Amazing people have no problem with trucks all over but a crawling train maybe once a week on the toms river branch,is beyond me!

If they did a transloading yard on the TRIT off of 37, most likely you would see a train once a day, but that's still nothing compared to how often they used to run on TRIT + the amount of trucks down there right now.

glenn cannizzaro wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:46 am How true,I live in a active adult senior community in Barnegat now,the complaints about everything from grass cutting to they don't like the tree the builder planted in their front of their house is unbelievable. You're here to enjoy your life, not complain, about everything you have no control over.

Lots of busybodies these days it seems

Let's come back down to reality here.

First off, Freehold was probably making a profit off Beacon by fining them. I believe the end of the across the street loading came when someone plowed into their equipment on Throckmorton. It's just not safe for heavy equipment to be crossing the road for loading rail cars on a regular basis. Why didn't Freehold invest in a siding, you ask. They most likely did not have any reason to justify spending on such a project. If they did without the Town of Freehold using this siding, it could become a bigger issue for competitors or other businesses wanting the town to build them something as well.

Back to reality for Nestle. These dreams that you propose of just running intermodal trains onto the property have some hiccups. Once on the property, how are the containers going to be unloaded? The containers need to come off the railcar to be unloaded. This would require a large container lift or similar piece of equipment. They are not cheap, not small, they require a good amount of room to travel around in, and they are not easy to maintain. A yard jockey would still be required to move these containers to the loading docks. In the end it is far less expensive to have the containers trucked in from an intermodal terminal.

For the Toms River, just because the railroad was here first doesn't mean that it will be allowed to get by the current local politics.

Without sheating all the details, it would just be nice if the C&D could pick up some more business. Less trucks on the road, less traffic. less polution. Local govts, generally, want kickpacks or votes or jobs for their friends or something, before they help out with anything. OTOH, the state does make grants every year to help businesses in the state.. maybe thats the way to go...

Morning y’all.

Anyone hear/see the train yet?

Morning, just saw it at Squankum Yellowbrook Rd at 9:27

Turning at Cross Street 11:00 AM

C&D 2005 and 10 for Woodhaven.

What frequency do they usually talk on?

Northbound at Squankum 1:05 pm

pdtrains wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:32 am Without sheating all the details, it would just be nice if the C&D could pick up some more business. Less trucks on the road, less traffic. less polution. Local govts, generally, want kickpacks or votes or jobs for their friends or something, before they help out with anything. OTOH, the state does make grants every year to help businesses in the state.. maybe thats the way to go...

With the way this state regulates business, they better have some programs to help them out in one way or another.

Marl Rd at 1:49 PM

They are using 752 to drill Woodhaven.

Not sure on car count but they have a tanker.

752 will be leading going back. 2005 is being dropped in Woodhaven.

They had 9 for Woodhaven.

Northbound at DCS LAKEWOOD 11:51 AM

Squankum Rd at noon. Moving at track speed, maybe faster.