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  by MEC407
 
Sounds like we're witnessing the Guilfordization of Conway Scenic.
  by CSRR4266
 
Westbound31 wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:40 pm a video of crews rerailing a notch train car at the golf course switch using a chain and a backhoe where the chain breaks nearly causing the car to crash into the worker...
You forgot to mention the time they were moving 252 with the backhoe using the chains by the golf course crossing and the chains broke sending 252 on a free fall down the hill towards an approaching revenue steam train. Very fortunate they had an operator who thought quickly and bailed out of the loader and ran after the engine cranking the handbrake. Anyone else, I’m fairly certain they would have gone belly up that day.
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  by CSRR4266
 
Westbound31 wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:54 am fe14f79e-2635-4464-b4c5-960143e92910.jpg
Was this recently? If so, not the first time this car has hit that beam
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  by MEC407
 
CSRR4266 wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:14 am ...the chains broke sending 252 on a free fall down the hill towards an approaching revenue steam train.
Good Lord. Maybe this isn't the Guilfordization of Conway Scenic, but rather the MM&A-ization.
  by ProRail
 
It sounds like when the new ownership took over they were heavily financed by loans or other credit in order to complete the sale. The recent purchases of MoW Equipment and another dome with other assets backed as collateral tells me that they are heavily leveraged. It won't take much to stretch the financial rubber band past the point of snapping. We all best hope someone else with deep pockets comes along to save the ruins in the aftermath.
  by CSRR573
 
Didnt realize Derek left. Pretty sure he learned everything straight from Paul. What would happen in a bankruptcy? Perhaps they would be better off running as a non-profit? Get some grants as a museum? Just thinking out loud here.
  by p42thedowneaster
 
Reader#108 wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:47 am And P42.......PLEASE....enough with the foaming pipe dream of steam running properly. 7470 is the operational loco. 501 is allegedly due to go in at some point. They have no qualified people to operate them. ...

.... Get a Climax......this is not a 5mph ride with logs.
Right it doesn't have to be a Climax (Heisler would be faster ;) )...just a smaller boilered rod engine could do. They've been fighting with that 7470 for 50 years...sell it while it's running well. I also think, we may find a little engine with a varible-fuel firebox would be much better to have around if they ever shut off the coal supply. The rules are tightening up, and what they dont outlaw they make prohibitively expensive.

With a smaller engine, the whole steam program could shift to different model. Maybe instead of running the regular trip, you just take the Black Mountain open car and go down to Redstone and shove back?
  by CSRR4266
 
I always preferred the Pacific class myself. Though would be a sacrilege to sell off the 7470 where she is the logo and identity of the railroad. But gotta do what you gotta do if the opportunity presents itself, and with the current mgmt, I wouldn't be surprised if this happened at some point down the road.
  by Jonathan
 
I really cannot see the owners or any other new management selling the 7470, it's the crown jewel of the railroad and a New Hampshire icon. I can see, however, them purchasing another steam engine for use.


Can you imagine how much revenue they'd lose if they sold the steam engine, or how many customers they would lose? Say what you want about Swirk...... if he's smart enough, he wouldn't dream of letting the engine that started it all go to another railroad. Having seen 7470 4 times after he took over, it seems he's always in the cab either as an engineer or a second fireman.
  by CSRR4266
 
Jonathan wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:14 pm Can you imagine how much revenue they'd lose if they sold the steam engine?
I don't think they would. They made pretty decent income when it was down for a while. Plus people always seemed to complain that it got their clothing dirty and some other nonsense when it did run, though, that could be just the way it is being run with the current management as I don't seem to recall any complaints when it was operated with a better crew, but that may be just it, the crew was better at operating & managing the the steam pressure.

Swirk is definitely always in the cab, doesn't mean he knows how to operate it efficiently and properly.
  by Jonathan
 
I think swirk does a good job running 7470, from the 3 times ive chased him, 7470 didn't have a problem when he was behind the throttle.
  by CSRR4266
 
Jonathan wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:40 pm I think swirk does a good job running 7470, from the 3 times ive chased him, 7470 didn't have a problem when he was behind the throttle.
Yeah, but chasing him means you don't feel the herky jerky on board the train. The car right behind the engine is always going to have some bumping, but when you feel it 5 or 6 cars down away from the train and feel the the train slacking in or out hard, there's a problem there.
  by Westbound31
 
CSRR4266 wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:14 am You forgot to mention the time they were moving 252 with the backhoe using the chains by the golf course crossing and the chains broke sending 252 on a free fall down the hill towards an approaching revenue steam train. Very fortunate they had an operator who thought quickly and bailed out of the loader and ran after the engine cranking the handbrake. Anyone else, I’m fairly certain they would have gone belly up that day.
Was it 252? I thought it was 216 that was sent careening down the hill. Either way, that was such a near miss for them. The last shop foreman left because he was fighting with Swirk over getting the new dome car during the winter. He kept telling swirk it was a bad idea and he needed the crew in the shop to get the equipment ready for the upcoming season. But swirk insisted on sending plow trains through the Notch. Foreman told him they’d derail and swirk wouldn’t take that for an answer. Many derails and crew times wasted later, the operation was canned but not before tempers flared and a railroad qualified, hard working mechanic was replaced with an airplane mechanic.

I see 7470 was out today on the main for a bit on display while Solomon did another radio event on the platform. This time with a band. Chains and barriers still up on the platform so not sure how much of an event it really was. No patrons allowed on platform during this that I could see. Just swirk and Solomon and whatever radio crews were there.
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