Amtrak Gateway Tunnels

https://www.nj.com/news/2023/05/price-t ... utType=amp

Price tag of Gateway Tunnel’s concrete box under Hudson Yards is $692M
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On Tuesday, the Gateway Development Commission approved three resolutions that will lead to construction of last third of a larger tunnel box project that was started in 2013. The agreements include approving a market based cost estimate of $692.7 million and an agreement on how the funding will be divided between New York, New Jersey and Amtrak.

The tunnel box section extends diagonally from 11th Avenue to 30th Street under a Long Island Rail Road rail yard on west Manhattan.That section passes below the MTA train yard that was the site of Biden’s January event announcing the grant.

The Hudson Yards Concrete Casting 3 would be approximately 550 feet long, between 50 and 65 feet wide and between 27 and 38 feet high. The project involves building the “box out of heavily reinforced concrete ranging from 3.5 to 10-feet thick” and a waterproofing membrane to cover its perimeter, Gateway Development Commission documents show.

How will it be funded? Under the agreement approved by the commission’s board of directors, New Jersey and New York will each fund $69.27 million. Amtrak applied for and was awarded a $292.1 million mega grant for the last phase of the tunnel box, which Biden announced during his January visit. That grant will be Amtrak’s contribution.
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Gateway officials also released very tentative schedules for the four projects that the tunnel project that calls for three projects that do preparatory work for the actual drilling starting in 2024. Actual drilling of the tunnel under the river that will use twin tunnel boring machines working from New Jersey to New York, would start in late 2025 and end in spring 2029.
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If my calculations is correct they still missing around $ 250 million.

GDC ANNOUNCES REQUESTS FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR TWO MAJOR PIECES OF HUDSON TUNNEL PROJECT

Palisades Project Will Bore First Mile of Underground Tunnel. Hudson River Ground Stabilization Will Comprise 1,200 Feet of Early Work.

Full release: https://mailchi.mp/gatewayprogram/may-2 ... 695878bcbf

Direct link to GDC website instead of Mailchimp: https://www.gatewayprogram.org/wp-conte ... ay2023.pdf

Tonnelle Avenue $$$:

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/ ... 366203007/

Tonnelle Avenue: A $25 million award is going to an early construction project expected to start later this year for the Gateway tunnels, a $16.1 billion set of projects to build two new rail tunnels into New York Penn Station and rehabilitate the two existing ones that are over a century old. This project will relocate utilities in this area of North Bergen and rebuild Tonnelle Avenue so it goes over the entrance to the new tunnels. This will cover just under half of the costs of this $54 million project, with the Gateway Development Commission covering the remainder.

HUDSON TUNNEL PROJECT TO RECEIVE $6.88 BILLION FEDERAL GRANT
Project Entered into Engineering Phase of Capital Investment Grant Process, Clearing Way for
Full Funding Grant Agreement and Major Construction of Project
Newark, NJ and New York, NY – The Gateway Development Commission (GDC) announced today
that the Hudson Tunnel Project has entered the Engineering Phase of the Federal Transit
Administration’s (FTA) Capital Investment Grants (CIG) Program and that the FTA had updated
the project to receive an up to a $6.88 Billion CIG Program grant.

https://www.gatewayprogram.org/wp-conte ... 3Final.pdf

Much more information and description by a knowledgeable reporter: https://www.nj.com/news/2023/07/hudson- ... rward.html

Feds commit $6.8B for new Hudson River tunnels, potential opening by 2035: Gothamist

The federal government has vowed to put up $6.88 billion for New York and New Jersey’s plan to build two new rail tunnels beneath the Hudson River, Sen. Chuck Schumer announced on Thursday.

The funding covers less than half of the project’s estimated $16.8 billion cost — but the commitment represents the largest federal grant ever given for a U.S. mass transit project. New York and New Jersey have already agreed to split the remaining cost.
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The funding commitment means the Gateway Development Commission can receive no more than $6.88 billion in federal “capital investment grants” for the project. Schumer said he would look into other sources of federal funding for the project.
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This Gateway situation is analogous to building a new aircraft carrier that usually takes four, or even five, fiscal years to complete.

The fact remains, however, that appropriations only cover the fiscal year to which they apply; conceivably Congress could fail to appropriate funds for the project in any fiscal year that the ship remains under construction. Of course, this is unlikely as such appropriation is under the Defense spending bill - and they always get what they want.

But the future appropriations to complete Gateway are simply part of an "Omnibus" spending bill, in which $7B is a "drop in the pail". So there is always the possibility Gateway could come up "empty handed" - and there sits a half bored tunnel over which any headline grabbing politician can "make his noise".

And finally, that same "pol" would be quick to make noise at such time one of the existing tunnels springs a leak, with Amtrak and NJT service being seriously curtailed. With climate change now front page, it is not whether New York will be confronted with another Sandy, but when.

IMO The most important section is getting the underwater stabilization complete. As understood it has a short calendar window for work and if delayed a whole year can be lost.

No new ground broken by this article appearing in the Sunday print Times. It's succinct - and the Sunday edition has about double the circulation of a Daily:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/nyre ... =url-share

I'd be more worried about the cost overruns than the appropriations.

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https://newjersey.news12.com/first-part ... BfMRs707xM

And my question is, why do the new tunnels take a dip to the south, rather than straight like the old ones. See 32 seconds into the video at the beginning of the article. Probably the dip has been discussed, but I haven't been paying attention.

JS

From above link:

First part of Hudson River Tunnel Project set to break ground in October

The first part of the Hudson River Tunnel Project will break ground next month in North Bergen.
Ground will be broken for a new Tonnelle Avenue overpass near what will be the tunnel's entrance.
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pumpers wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:27 pm https://newjersey.news12.com/first-part ... BfMRs707xM

And my question is, why do the new tunnels take a dip to the south, rather than straight like the old ones. See 32 seconds into the video at the beginning of the article. Probably the dip has been discussed, but I haven't been paying attention.

JS

The dip isn't discussed in the video as it was for the overpass construction starting off.

That said, the alignment was picked because there was previous work done in the ARC project that they're reusing. It results in a longer tunnel but removes any risk of delay due to having to redo the land purchasing, mitigation work, etc etc etc yada yada yada.