I split this topic from the main Gateway topic, as there currently no provision for freight through the new tunnels.
1. I don't think it's feasible for many of the reasons noted above.
2. CSX and NS aren't going to invest in any type of project which would not be of minimal utility to them, if any.
3. They also haven't shown any interest in a Cross-Harbor Freight tunnel, which was the original mission of the Port Authority. Why move an interchange point to Brooklyn when they just transload in Jersey?
4. Freight offloading would be a huge lift in Manhattan. That possibility was foreclosed when the Westside Yards near Riverside at the foot of the Henry Hudson Parkway was developed.
5. The West Side freight improvement (the High Line) would not have supported modern freight weights. The demand dropped late in its use anyway, and the demolition of the St. John's freight terminal foreclosed any increase in usage.
6. A tunnel through Manhattan doesn't do anything to help freight traffic into Manhattan. Where would you offload it? You're just moving trucks from one bridge to another, because you'd have to put the yard in Brooklyn.
7. I can't think of anywhere in Manhattan where you could put a freight yard, certainly being unable to compensate for grade issues in the northern tip. It would be a massive cost to acquire the real estate, unlike when the Pennsy was buying up the land in midtown for NYP.
8. The closest freight yard existing is Oak Point, and you can't access the Hell Gate from the link IIRC. You could use the NEC coming off the New Haven, but you have limitations with Amtrak and Metro North, plus clearance issues. It works for local freight, and P&W stone. So the connection is Selkirk or Cedar Hill.
9. That's not to say that a freight tunnel is not a worthwhile idea, but not as part of the Gateway project. But it would be a vast, expensive undertaking, one which the Class 1's won't fund. It might make the NY&A happy, but that's about it. But it would take trucks off the road.
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