• All Things Portal Bridge: Amtrak and NJT Status and Replacement Discussion

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This forum will be for issues that don't belong specifically to one NYC area transit agency, but several. For instance, intra-MTA proposals or MTA-wide issues, which may involve both Metro-North Railroad (MNRR) and the Long Island Railroad (LIRR). Other intra-agency examples: through running such as the now discontinued MNRR-NJT Meadowlands special. Topics which only concern one operating agency should remain in their respective forums.

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  by west point
 
How is the 50% measured? Costs, time if so then project should be completed in another 21 months, service start, demolition of old bridge, 50% of material,??? Can think of a few other meetrics.
If they are building arches off site wonder if they will be raised much like the Stlouis bridge was??
  by lpetrich
 
One might be able to find online some detailed progress report on the Portal Bridge. I was able to do that for East Side Access and Caltrain electrification.

Prefabrication has the downside of having to get the parts to their destination. For the Portal Bridge arches, it's easy if one could assemble them at some seaport. One then puts them in barges and one then tows these barges to the bridge site. That would be much more difficult for some inland site.
  by lensovet
 
Official press release https://www.njtransit.com/press-release ... completion

My read of 50% is construction progress, I guess you could call it number of items completed? Cost would be a weird metric to use. Time also as it’s not as deterministic as just looking at a list of items and crossing them off.

Regardless good progress is being made. It’s hard to miss when riding the train.
  by Ken W2KB
 
Jeff Smith wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 5:53 am On time, on budget: NorthJersey.com
Portal Bridge rail replacement project is 50% done, on time and on budget, despite hurdles

KEARNY — Getting to the 50% completion mark on the new $2.3 billion Portal North Bridge — and getting there on time and on budget — required overcoming myriad challenges and, for some, debating who has accrued the most gray hairs.

“Tony, I have the most gray hair, you’re getting a few, and I hate to tell you, Kris, in another five, six years we’ll do a before-and-after picture, but thanks so much for stepping up,” joked Kevin Corbett, CEO and president of NJ Transit, the agency leading construction of the new rail bridge that spans the Hackensack River between Kearny and Secaucus.

It will be a taller, fixed-span replacement for the 114-year-old swing span that has been prone to getting stuck in recent years, causing major delays to NJ Transit and Amtrak trains headed in and out of Manhattan.
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Corbett said he thinks the project could get done under budget before its intended completion in 2026.[urhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/transportat ... 77227007/l][/url]
  by STrRedWolf
 
JCGUY wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:33 am If and when Portal South is constructed, would it be built at the current site of the existing bridge?
I would think they would rebuild the existing bridge to new bridge specs by the time Portal South is built.
  by lpetrich
 
STrRedWolf wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:47 am
JCGUY wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:33 am If and when Portal South is constructed, would it be built at the current site of the existing bridge?
I would think they would rebuild the existing bridge to new bridge specs by the time Portal South is built.
Other Gateway Program Projects - Gateway Program - Portal South will be a new bridge much like Portal North.
  by lensovet
 
JCGUY wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:33 am If and when Portal South is constructed, would it be built at the current site of the existing bridge?
No need to ask the exact same question as posed on the previous page
  by lensovet
 
STrRedWolf wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:47 am
JCGUY wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:33 am If and when Portal South is constructed, would it be built at the current site of the existing bridge?
I would think they would rebuild the existing bridge to new bridge specs by the time Portal South is built.
That’s kind of impossible because the existing bridge is a swing bridge and the “new bridge specs” are a fixed span bridge that’s many feet higher above the water.

Also, the contract for the bridge currently being constructed includes the complete demolition of the existing bridge.
  by STrRedWolf
 
lensovet wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:54 pm
STrRedWolf wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:47 am
JCGUY wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:33 am If and when Portal South is constructed, would it be built at the current site of the existing bridge?
I would think they would rebuild the existing bridge to new bridge specs by the time Portal South is built.
That’s kind of impossible because the existing bridge is a swing bridge and the “new bridge specs” are a fixed span bridge that’s many feet higher above the water.

Also, the contract for the bridge currently being constructed includes the complete demolition of the existing bridge.
I didn't say the rebuild of the existing bridge would need to be exact. You're leading to what I mean: Rebuild the existing bride to new bridge specs. Boom, four track operations, bottleneck removed.
  by lpetrich
 
lensovet wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:02 pm I mean that’s been the plan all along, but who’s providing the money for this mythical second bridge?
It's mentioned in Other Gateway Program Projects - Gateway Program

They are going ahead with the Sawtooth Bridge and the Dock Bridge.

Still in planning are the Portal South Bridge, the Harrison Fourth Track, and the Secaucus/Bergen Loop.
  by lensovet
 
Interesting that the video was posted just two days ago because the shots are very, very old.

Here's the latest progress from a few days ago https://www.facebook.com/1230541/posts/ ... 5828274703. You can see catenary poles are already going up on a portion of the new span.
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