• Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

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  by JimBoylan
 
MACTRAXX wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 11:54 amBack in the late 1970s Amtrak had stored (two?) sets of UA Turbotrains at 30th Street Station for either future service or resale (NOT mentioned in the Wikipedia UA Turbotrain page) that were in bad condition and ended up being scrapped - no UA Turbotrains ended up being preserved for historical purposes in either the US or Canada in the end...MACTRAXX
Those 2 Amtrak trains had earlier been very visibly stored along U.S. 50 New York Ave. near Ivy City in the District of Columbia while bids were being solicited from the scrappers. They had to be moved away because too many congresscritters were asking when the new trains were going to be put into service. They had been lengthened with surplus Canadian cars when Via Rail Canada rearranged their sets. They eventually left 30th St. for Naporano Iron & Metals.
They still had roller curtain destination signs over some of the doorways while on display in Washington, but Mr. Naporaono said he didn't receive any of them.
  by Fan Railer
 
mcgrath618 wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:59 am The Acela Is seem to be mostly hitting 150 at Princeton on the WB runs. EB trains are coming up a grade so most have only been hitting the 140s. It's certainly possible for EBs to hit 150, however.

When the new cat is finished at Hamilton there should be no problem getting them up to speed.
With CP Clark being so close to Princeton Junction, it comes down to the engineer's reaction time to receiving the speed upgrade and whether or not they have a good trainset. That said, when I was out there last Tuesday, at least 1 eastbound I confirmed clocked 149 mph, so yes it is possible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26mLXAcicEk
  by photobug56
 
JimBoylan wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 4:19 pm
MACTRAXX wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 11:54 amBack in the late 1970s Amtrak had stored (two?) sets of UA Turbotrains at 30th Street Station for either future service or resale (NOT mentioned in the Wikipedia UA Turbotrain page) that were in bad condition and ended up being scrapped - no UA Turbotrains ended up being preserved for historical purposes in either the US or Canada in the end...MACTRAXX
Those 2 Amtrak trains had earlier been very visibly stored along U.S. 50 New York Ave. near Ivy City in the District of Columbia while bids were being solicited from the scrappers. They had to be moved away because too many congresscritters were asking when the new trains were going to be put into service. They had been lengthened with surplus Canadian cars when Via Rail Canada rearranged their sets. They eventually left 30th St. for Naporano Iron & Metals.
They still had roller curtain destination signs over some of the doorways while on display in Washington, but Mr. Naporaono said he didn't receive any of them.
IMO, it was a huge waste scrapping them. Yes, they needed upgrades, etc., but they fulfilled a need.
  by Matt Johnson
 
Fan Railer wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 3:36 pm
With CP Clark being so close to Princeton Junction, it comes down to the engineer's reaction time to receiving the speed upgrade and whether or not they have a good trainset. That said, when I was out there last Tuesday, at least 1 eastbound I confirmed clocked 149 mph, so yes it is possible.
My estimate may be off, but I think it's in the ballpark:

3.05 seconds for the 664 ft length train to pass = 217.7 ft/sec *3600/5280 = 148.4 mph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIJWOTyrlMA
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