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Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:27 pm
by Gilbert B Norman
Here's the Railway Age article reporting that Fourth Quarter '23 is the current "guesstimate" for inauguration of Acela 2 sets. This development was first noted by Mr. McGrath within his immediate on the preceeding page:

https://www.railwayage.com/passenger/hi ... =passenger

Well, Joe will just have to survive as POTUS46 until then so he can have his farewell to Washington and public life ride aboard such (I don't think the Secret Service will deprive a Former President).

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:39 pm
by Ken W2KB
Gilbert B Norman wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:27 pm Here's the Railway Age article reporting that Fourth Quarter '23 is the current "guesstimate" for inauguration of Acela 2 sets. This development was first noted by Mr. McGrath within his immediate on the preceeding page:

https://www.railwayage.com/passenger/hi ... =passenger

Well, Joe will just have to survive as POTUS46 until then so he can have his farewell to Washington and public life ride aboard such (I don't think the Secret Service will deprive a Former President).
I would not object to my taxpayer dollars to be expended for the extra cost of this Amtrak journey versus the usual air travel to Wilmington. I receive email notices of the temporary flight restrictions more or less weekly for POTUS travel.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:45 pm
by photobug56
At the rate things are going, I hope that Amtrak is taking good care of the A!'s. Sounds like at least some will be in service for several years to come.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:11 am
by Pensyfan19
Very detailed article explaining the delays of the Acela 23.

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews ... eployment/
HORNELL, N.Y. — Testing of Amtrak’s next-generation Acela trainsets on the Northeast Corridor has shown that further modifications will be necessary, pushing back the date the equipment will be placed in service because additional testing will be necessary.

Amtrak revealed last week at a Philadelphia media event that the first of the 28 nine-unit trainsets being built by Alstom are not expected to enter revenue service until sometime in 2023. [see “News photos: Amtrak releases images of interiors for new Acelas,” Trains News Wire, April 1, 2022]. The debut originally expected in 2021 had been pushed back last year.

Amtrak says further computer modeling and simulation tests are required, explaining in a statement, “These are the first trainsets built under FRA’s Tier III rule, which sets new design specifications to allow for operation at the highest speeds and on shared corridors. We hope this will be the first of many trains built under this new framework and that the lessons learned here will benefit those efforts.”

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:49 pm
by bostontrainguy

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:45 pm
by photobug56
While the article still leaves a lot for speculation, at least it gives some idea of what this mess is about. Being the pioneer with new tech on an old, run down railroad, is not simple.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:38 pm
by scratchyX1
photobug56 wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:45 pm While the article still leaves a lot for speculation, at least it gives some idea of what this mess is about. Being the pioneer with new tech on an old, run down railroad, is not simple.
I had a feeling that the 110 year old catanery didn't play nice with 21st century gear.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:44 pm
by photobug56
Several decades of starving a major rail line of sufficient capital funding doesn't help. Fix a broken piece here or there, even update parts of it, and you still have a rather ancient infrastructure. In contrast, with most high speed rail lines, they started out with up to date infrastructure to match the equipment. This is a system built for steam and early electrics.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:28 pm
by 8th Notch
One of the sets will be making a trip up to Boston tomorrow and back the following day on Wednesday am.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:59 pm
by rcthompson04
I presume the ride quality is quite rough at speed.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:29 pm
by daybeers
8th Notch wrote: Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:28 pm One of the sets will be making a trip up to Boston tomorrow and back the following day on Wednesday am.
Wow! Any idea when tomorrow or Wednesday morning? Might catch it in New Haven area, ideally Guilford but depends on class schedule.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:20 am
by 8th Notch
I’m not 100% but should be leaving NY around noon timeframe today and BOS around 8-9 am tomorrow.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:31 am
by MBTA F40PH-2C 1050
planned scheudle....subject to change of course:


4/12
dept PHL 9:10a
Arr. Boston 3:35p

4/13
dept Boston 7:20a
arr PHL 1:30p

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:25 pm
by Bracdude181
Anyone see the new Acela run today and if so what symbol was it under? If they go back to Philly tomorrow i might go see it near New Brunswick or something. Need to go see something other than Conrail for once lol.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:13 pm
by 8th Notch
X966 today, X967 tomorrow back.