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  by Otto Vondrak
 
Don't be fooled by the stainless steel exterior... these cars are complete garbage and wont be going anywhere except the scrappers torch. Spending the last 15 years or so stored dead out of service exposed to the elements will do that (let's not even talk about their spotty service record when they were new). If someone wants to purchase them and convert them to coaches, well I know it probably wont be MN's money footing the bill...

-otto-

  by 4 Express
 
mncommuter wrote:Some pics I took at Croton North a couple of years ago:

http://www.geocities.com/mncommuter/croton_north.html
Nice pictures.
Otto Vondrak wrote:Don't be fooled by the stainless steel exterior... these cars are complete garbage and wont be going anywhere except the scrappers torch. Spending the last 15 years or so stored dead out of service exposed to the elements will do that (let's not even talk about their spotty service record when they were new). If someone wants to purchase them and convert them to coaches, well I know it probably wont be MN's money footing the bill...

-otto-
You were almost too late on saying that.

  by NHRR WTBY
 
I remember riding these quite often as a kid on the Waterbury branch. One Saturday on the way to Bridgeport, the unit broke down only a mile or so from the Waterbury depot. We waited an hour or so for a bus to come and take us to Bridgeport. By then, we'd missed the GCT connection. If I remember correctly, the line was part of Penn Central at that time (late 60's).

  by Otto Vondrak
 
If it was the late 1960s, you were probably riding an RDC, which was a far superior Budd product. This thread is discussing the SPV's, these cars were purchased around 1980-1981, where reliability was spotty at best.

For comparison...

RDC:
http://www.danbury.org/drm/images/rdc47-1.jpg

SPV:
http://hebners.net/amtrak/amtSPV/mnSPV.jpg

  by NHRR WTBY
 
Otto Vondrak wrote:If it was the late 1960s, you were probably riding an RDC, which was a far superior Budd product. This thread is discussing the SPV's, these cars were purchased around 1980-1981, where reliability was spotty at best.

For comparison...

RDC:
http://www.danbury.org/drm/images/rdc47-1.jpg

SPV:
http://hebners.net/amtrak/amtSPV/mnSPV.jpg
I stand corrected. It was a BUDD RDC. It was still a piece of junk. There was very little money put into capital improvement at that time.

  by Otto Vondrak
 
Yeah, I could see that. However, a properly maintained RDC is very reliable. No matter how much money was poured on the SPV's, their reliability factor never rose above pitiful.

-otto-
  by Noel Weaver
 
I ran Budd RDC cars at various times in the 1970's and early 1980's.
In my opinion, they were a good piece of equipment, perfect - NO but
very good and generally quite dependable.
It is true that sometimes a compressor fuse would blow or maybe from
time to time the electric compressor would have problem keeping up with
the demand for air but they were usually OK. Occasionally, we would lose
an engine too but usually it was no big deal, we would go out and restart
the one that shut down while stopped at a station if we needed to, if it
would not start, one engine would get us where we needed to go as a rule.
Too bad the SPV did not have a more modern but simple design like the
RDC had, if they had, they could have still been around today doing what
they were intended to do.
Noel Weaver

  by the missing link
 
i rode the spv's on the danbury&norwalk when they got them.we had #50,with a bumpersticker "lizzie"on the end door,named for the governor who funded them.i rode up front all the time.i remember it had a really simple control with one handle for throttle & brake,and a coast position.great a/c in the summer,almost too chilly.the branch was mostly stickrail then,they were pretty smooth.after that i think the rdc's were only used for substitution during inspections.i moved away before they started breaking down.anyone w/pics from this timeframe(78-82) please?