Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airport)

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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airport)

Post by bostontrainguy » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:12 am

Yeah, lots of money spent on something that may never happen! They seem to be trying real hard to get Amtrak down there and yet Amtrak seems not interested. This has been an interesting mess.

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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airport)

Post by mtuandrew » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:12 am

At least having the road detour system allows for longer Tri-Rail trains in the future.

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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airport)

Post by Rockingham Racer » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:06 pm

I think we had a clue in 2015 when Amtrak laid some brand new concrete ties on both tracks at their Hialeah location. Or maybe the left hand didn't [doesn't] know what the right hand is doing?

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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airport)

Post by PC1100 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:27 pm

The current station site is unusual for an Amtrak long distance terminal, but typical of those post-1950s station locations elsewhere (Savannah, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Richmond, etc). I just find arriving in a major city like Miami and ending up in an industrial district on a back street miles out of downtown (effectively the middle of nowhere) to be very odd. It's the only terminal of a long distance route on the entire Amtrak system that is in such a location. The airport itself is a strange place to terminate a railroad, but at least you are in a busy transportation center with direct access to rapid transit to downtown. At the VERY least, a lighted, covered walkway to the current Metro-Rail transfer station would be better than the "welcome to an industrial street in Hialeah, FL (even though the sign and your tickets all show Miami!), you're on your own now!" When I was down there 3 years ago I got off at Hollywood, transferred to Tri-Rail to the airport, then Metro-Rail to downtown. Given the other options of a walk down an industrial street in an unfamiliar area to connect to Metro-Rail, an expensive cab ride, or a slow running infrequent bus connection, this was my best bet, which wouldn't have been too bad except my destination was Miami Beach! Then after all that, I missed my bus connection from downtown to Miami Beach. The current location certainly doesn't help Amtrak's image or increase ridership in an era when the trend is toward downtown development and walkabilty. The station building really isn't the issue, it's just out of place.

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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airport)

Post by Rockingham Racer » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:58 am

According to the MDT website, the L bus to Miami Beach leaves the AMtrak station just about every half hour throughout the day during the week until about 6:00 PM. I don't call that infrequent service.

Weekend service is poor.

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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airport)

Post by mtuandrew » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:06 am

PC1100: shades of Minneapolis-St. Paul Midway Station, now solely a crew base and car switching location. (Also the only other 300A Standard Station on the entire system.) It’s nowhere near either downtown - at least it was always close to the major intercity bus route on University Avenue, less than 30 minutes to either place and barely 15 to the University of Minnesota. It doesn’t sound like Miami-Hialeah has that kind of convenience.
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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airport)

Post by Suburban Station » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:35 pm

ideally I'd be dropped off downtown. the chance of me taking a long distance train to an airport is zero, I'd think the market to transfer to cruise ships would be higher. in some ways midway is worse since you pass through the city and then stop in the middle of nowhere. emeryville is also a letdown, after travelling all that way from chicago you get dropped off across the bay but there is a connecting amtrak bus to take you downtown.

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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airport)

Post by PC1100 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:58 pm

Rockingham Racer, you are correct that the bus route isn't infrequent, but in terms of the time that 91 and 97 are due into Miami it isn't great. 91 is due in at 5:58PM and 97 at 6:39PM. There's a bus that runs all the way down to Lincoln Road area of Miami Beach at 6:25PM and then 8:21PM, the two other buses in between end in North Beach. While I know these aren't the only places people riding Amtrak are destined for, one should have more immediate transfer options available than this and arrive in a more central location. The Midway station is the perfect comparison.

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Re: Amtrak in Miami (Hialeah, Miami Intermodal Center/Airport)

Post by Rockingham Racer » Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:52 am

Yes, I thought of mentioning that issue while I was writing the post, but left it out. Thanks!

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