Army-Navy Specials

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NortheastTrainMan
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Army-Navy Specials

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What happened to the High Line's electricfication? Ya'll know the one that runs from South Philly to Zoo Interlocking, the elevated South Philly portion (bridge) looks like it break anytime now. Was it always like that? Was there any regular passenger service on the High Line or was it only Army-Navy Specials? I'm thinking about it now did the Army-Navy Specials end at Greenwich Yard or continue down Delaware Ave/Columbus Blvd? Was Delaware Ave/Columbus Blvd electrified back then or not? Also were did the Army-Navy Specials run to and from?
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Re: Army-Navy Specials

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does anyone know?
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nomistakes

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that has been clasified now...shhh don't tell anyone :-D

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classified!? come on CIA,FBI,NATIONAL GUARD :P give me a break lol!!
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On Saturday, December 1, 1973 Amtrak ran three trains from New York to "Stadium". The trains left New York at 8:45 AM,
9:00 AM and 9:05 AM. All of them stopped at Newark and the third one also stopped at Metro Park and New Brunswick.
Fare was $15.00 from New York round trip.
Food and beverage service was available.
Don't know off hand what ran after that.
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Noel Weaver wrote:On Saturday, December 1, 1973 Amtrak ran three trains from New York to "Stadium". The trains left New York at 8:45 AM,
9:00 AM and 9:05 AM. All of them stopped at Newark and the third one also stopped at Metro Park and New Brunswick.
Fare was $15.00 from New York round trip.
Food and beverage service was available.
Don't know off hand what ran after that.
Noel Weaver
Where did you find that from?
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Re: Army-Navy Specials

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Noel,

I can recall at least 2 occasions where I rode DHE trains from GCT to Sunnyside Yard. for the Army-Navy specials.

Both involved Harlem Line Brewster standard equipment which deadheaded back to GCT, looped out, went to Shell, power ran around the train, and down over the Hell Gate Bridge to Sunnyside where we backed into the Yard. The Harlem Div. crews made the full trip without a pilot conductor, only a pilot engineer. Don't know how the return trips were handled (the trains were back at Put Jct. for the Monday AM rush) or how many timeslips Labor Relations paid.

SHL

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The information that I provided came from an Amtrak leaflet distributed to the public prior to the game.
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The New York Central ran Army-Navy game specials out of West Point even after passenger service had been discontinued on the line. While I do not know the route in Philadelphia, in New Jersey the trains went through Weehawken, Hoboken and Jersey City to Kearney, where the NYC power was replaced with an electric. I remember watching the trains go through West Norwood as they rolled down the West Shore.

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NortheastTrainMan wrote:What happened to the High Line's electricfication? Ya'll know the one that runs from South Philly to Zoo Interlocking, the elevated South Philly portion (bridge) looks like it break anytime now. Was it always like that? Was there any regular passenger service on the High Line or was it only Army-Navy Specials? I'm thinking about it now did the Army-Navy Specials end at Greenwich Yard or continue down Delaware Ave/Columbus Blvd? Was Delaware Ave/Columbus Blvd electrified back then or not? Also were did the Army-Navy Specials run to and from?
The electrification was removed at about the same time as all the Conrail electrification, Highline still sees a lot of freight traffic. As for passenger service, it was used for a special train leaving the Republican National Convention (in 2000 or 2004?) at the Wachovia Center, also a special train for Iraq war vets to an Army Navy game a few years ago. This consist included restored Pennsy E units,

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The West Philadelphia High Line saw freight trains every day. I saw passenger trains there only on Army-Navy game day.

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the opening montage of Trading Places

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086465

shows dozens of shots around Philadelphia ca.1983

including one of the Orange Juice Train on the high line (they show the bridge over Spring Garden Street, right near the I-76 interchange)

and the wires are still up!

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