A Lackawanna "might have been"

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A Lackawanna "might have been"

Post by scottychaos » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:39 am

Here is an interesting locomotive concept that was being considered by the DL&W! :P

from page 36 of "Lackawanna Railroad in Color, Volume 3"
concerning the years 1952-1953.

"At this time, Lackawanna still owned 15 Pacifics in various sub-classes
and replacing them on the heavier commuter runs with single-unit diesels
was proving a difficult challenge. At one point, President Shoemaker was
said to have spoken to EMD concerning the feasibility of producing a
double-ended E-8 for these heavier trains. Finally Fairbanks Morse
announced the introduction of its 2400HP, six motor roadswitcher, the
379,000-lb Train Master series. Lackawanna promptly ordered the first
ten production units, numbers 850-859, all equipped with steam
generators"

So Lackawanna was considering several double-ended E8's for commuter service! :P
too bad none were ever built..
I wonder if EMD was considering it?

naturally, I had to see what one would have looked like! :P
a very interesting "might have been"..
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:P

Scot

henry6

AND WHAT WOULD WE HAVE

Post by henry6 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:44 am

And what would we have called it, and EE-8 or and EE-1!??

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Post by scottychaos » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:06 am

Or E8AA? :P

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Post by calorosome » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:22 am

Nice photoshop of an EL era E8. "L A C K A W A N N A" was in the wrong place and "RADIO EQUIPPED" didn't appear until EL.

Almost looks like a baby Centipede, or those electrics on the GN.

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Post by scottychaos » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:43 am

calorosome wrote:Nice photoshop of an EL era E8. "L A C K A W A N N A" was in the wrong place and "RADIO EQUIPPED" didn't appear until EL.

Almost looks like a baby Centipede, or those electrics on the GN.
Actually, everything about that photo is 100% prototypically accurate!
the DL&W double-ended E8AA's really did have "radio equipped" on them, and the lettering is in the exact correct place..
They were also built new with no side portholes, and the roof above the cabs was painted black on one end, and grey on the other..
its 100% correct! thats exactly how they looked when built.
In fact, that photo was taken when the unit was only a few months old.

:wink: :P

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Post by Dieter » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:26 pm

I'd like one of these pulling the Phoebe Snow on my layout! Thanks for sharing the effort! :P

Dieter/

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ALL E8AA's

Post by henry6 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:39 pm

All E8AA's were radio equipped with bi directional antennas. And by the way, anyone who knew, knows, or cared about the Lackawanna, knows it was never in the wrong place.

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