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 #1516503  by DutchRailnut
 
pretty sure google has some reference to roster info.
 #1516518  by MACTRAXX
 
Steve:

The 10 C1 bilevel cars date from 1990/91 - Tokyu Car Company of Japan.
There were five married pairs: 3001/3002; 3003/3004; 3005/3006; 3007/3008 and 3009/3010.
They were equipped with MU couplers requiring specially-modified Diesel locomotives for service.

The C3 cars were built by Kawasaki in 1997-98. All use 480VAC and can run at LIRR MAS of 80/65 mph.
C3 Cab Car 5001-5023 - Weight 149,652 - Total 23.
C3 TT Car 4001-4087 - Weight 145,681 - Total 44 (odd number cars with lavatory)
C3 T Car 4002-4134 - Weight 141,270 - Total 67 (even number cars)

MACTRAXX
 #1517542  by jhdeasy
 
Good subject for a page at your website.

I like the photo of 614 alongside 5014 at Montauk. A “relieve the watch” moment at the end of the era of Pullman Standard push-pull cars.

I must admit the C-3 cars hold no particular appeal for me. I never rode on them. Maybe I will someday on a future visit to NY.
 #1518093  by mp15ac
 
I rode the C3's a few ties. They are very comfortable, and quieter than the MU's.

Stuart
 #1518192  by JamesRR
 
I recall riding the C3s for the first time in 2002. Man, the A/C was insane! I seem to recall hearing it was because the temp sensors were near the doors, and when open, the entering heat threw them off. Not sure if that's why, but you could hang meat in there at the time.

Nice cars - I always found it intriguing that the windows on the C3s look like the ones found on the old M1/M3 cars. And yet on the new M7s an all new window design was introduced.
 #1520306  by nyandw
 
MACTRAXX wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:01 am "...The 10 C1 bilevel cars date from 1990/91 -They were equipped with MU couplers requiring specially-modified Diesel locomotives for service. The C3 cars were built by Kawasaki in 1997-98. All use 480VAC and can run at LIRR MAS of 80/65 mph...".MACTRAXX
Further exploration: The photo has a FL9 consist in August 1998. C3s began delivery 1997-98 utilizing DM30xx motive power.
1. Is the photo an odd incident? As I understand NO Fl9s with C3s.
2. When would a C3 consist appear in Port Jeff, then?

Thank you.
Attachments:
FL9 #302 C1-train eastbound Port Jefferson 8/02/1998 Archive: Dave Keller
FL9 #302 C1-train eastbound Port Jefferson 8/02/1998 Archive: Dave Keller
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 #1520326  by 452 Card
 
Steve,
That pic of the 302 is on #1 West at Port Jefferson, not eastbound. The main is just north of the consist in the picture. After the new yard was completed, the layup moved to that location east of Columbia Street. The FL-9ACs were created specifically for trial purposes for use with the lone C1 consist to evaluate the feasibility of a one-seat ride to PSNY on the Port Jefferson branch. The commuters there, at the time, were very disgruntled that no electrification was planned to happen anytime soon, as had happened on the Main Line from KO west. Most of them just drove and parked at the nearest station to their homes on the Main Line to avoid the "Huntington Shuffle". This caused parking nightmares at these stations. An example too is Patchogue; after the KO job was complete, the once-crowded PD parking became sparse when the crowd went to KO for the one-seat ride (and long nap).
 #1520445  by BuddR32
 
nyandw wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:44 pm Thank you. Are they any spotting differences to tell the C1s from the C3s in photos? (beside the numbers!)
Yes. The local door indicating lights on the C3 are adjacent to the doors and there are four lights. The C1 has them above the door center and there are only two.
 #1520448  by edflyerssn007
 
nyandw wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:44 pm Thank you. Are they any spotting differences to tell the C1s from the C3s in photos? (beside the numbers!)
The ends of the C3s also have a slightly different profile. The roof on the C3 has a slightly lowered profile on either end.
 #1520499  by nyandw
 
From Mike Boland: C1 cars have a "bottom fluting" that run the entire length of the car as does a boxcar, similar to late PRR boxcars like the X51, 55 and 56.
The C3 "bottom fluting" is tapered and begins just past the truck on each car and runs between them.

Makes it easy "as pie" to "spot 'em" :-) Thanks everyone.
 #1520500  by nyandw
 
What is a diesel train doing operating on the electrified Port Washington branch? View is NE towards the Flushing River. Note the former W&J Sloan Furniture Co. tower with U-Haul sign and Flushing EL with #7 train operating along Roosevelt Ave. bridge.?

Perhaps it is very early in the usage/testing cycle. Prior to actual use on the PJ Branch?



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