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New Hartford Branch

Post by Jedijk88 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:00 am

Can anyone confirm if this picture is of the New Haven's New Hartford branch as it crossed the Farmington River and Rt. 44? I would guess early 1950's. No evidence of this bridge seems to exist today from current aerial photos: https://newhartfordcthistory.files.word ... photo1.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by TomNelligan » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:09 am

Yes, the same photo appears on pages 76-77 of the book Trackside Along the New Haven 1950-1956 by Arthur E. Mitchell, where it is identified as showing the Farmington River bridge on the New Hartford branch. The book also includes seven other shots of that train at other locations on the branch as Mr. Mitchell chased it south.

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by The EGE » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:49 pm

The modern scene: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8776525 ... 312!8i6656" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by photons » Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:23 pm

Hi.
There is a reminant of this bridge. The stone abutment on the south side of route 44 still exists.
Russ

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by J.D. Lang » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:19 am

photons wrote:Hi.
There is a reminant of this bridge. The stone abutment on the south side of route 44 still exists.
Russ
Google Street view:
Bridge Abutment.jpg
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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by Engineer Spike » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:27 pm

The abutment you are showing is the CNE. They had a bridge across the hollow, which New Hartford center sits in. The Canal and CNE (Connecticut Western) both tan through the gorge at Satan’s Kingdom. CW/CNE was on the north shore of the Farmington River, but crossed to the south, and next to the Canal. The Canal line and CNE ran parallel through Pine Meadow, with the Canal on the east side of the ROW. Since the Canal bridge across Route 44, and the river is east of the location of the photo, the canal crossed the CNE, but it was through a crossover, not a diamond, which was by Pine Meadow Station.

After New Haven took over CNE, and CNE traffic started to diminish, Hartford bound CNE trains were rerouted to the Canal, via Plainville. After this point, a little CNE was used in Simsbury, which served a customer. The other remainder was the line between Hartford and Griffins.

There was a 3 volume set of CNE books, and they came out in the 1990s, by Robert Nikki. If you find a set, it is useful because many track diagrams are included. Being from Plainville, my family used to drive through here frequently. I also traced out the CNE one summer with my uncle.

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by The EGE » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:43 pm

No, I believe that is the New Hartford Branch bridge. The CNE was on the south/west side of the river through New Hartford.

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by FLRailFan1 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:12 pm

What did the Canal Branch to New Hartford serve? What did the CNE service? When was the line abandoned?

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by Engineer Spike » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:26 pm

I’m sure that the abutment shown is CNE. The Canal one was about where the car in front of the Google car is. Over one summer I did a thorough CNE exploration with my uncle who was a former New Haven employee, and railroad historian. He was around when CNE was still running, and his information was highly accurate. This friend and Noel used to take many rail fanning trips together, and I’m sure that Noel could vouch for the accuracy. The books that I referenced had many track maps in them. My spellcheck butchered the author’s name, which is Nimke.

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by The EGE » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:24 pm

Only one line - the New Hartford Branch - crossed the river at New Hartford. See this 1925 topo and 1934 aerial.

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by csor2010 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:19 am

The photo in the original post is the Canal Line bridge, here is the streetview of the remaining south abutment.

The other abutment being discussed is for the bridge pictured here (looking north, with Main St/US44 at right), which was on the CNE and spanned a brook and several streets.

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by Engineer Spike » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:32 am

The Canal was supposed to have been extended northwest into Massachusetts.

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by jfloehr » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:31 pm

https://www.openrailwaymap.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

link to this terrific map resource: then slowly zoom in to your desired location, allow a few seconds for each zoom to load - great detail, very accurately showing existing and abandoned lines

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by Jedijk88 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:37 am

The Canal was supposed to have been extended northwest into Massachusetts.
True. CT state railmaps from the late 1800's show a proposed line from New Hartford northwest toward Lee MA.

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Re: New Hartford Branch

Post by Ridgefielder » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:22 pm

FLRailFan1 wrote:What did the Canal Branch to New Hartford serve? What did the CNE service? When was the line abandoned?
I believe the big customer in later years was Collins Axe in Collinsville, 6 miles down the road. They manufactured axes, sledgehammers and such.

The New Hartford branch lasted into Penn Central days. The CNE was abandoned in the 1930's.

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