Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line service

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Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line service

Post by Trainer » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:57 am

"Police and fire officials are responding to reports of an explosion at 116th Street and Park Avenue in Upper Manhattan Wednesday morning.

Metro North has elevated tracks through the area. New Haven Line service into and out of Grand Central Terminal is temporarily suspended until further notice due to police activity."

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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by MSC34 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:51 am

For what it's worth, my wife's Hudson Line train (9:23 from SD) was stopped at Morris Heights. They were told that a building collapsed at 116th street and that a train was being sent to take passengers back to Marble Hill to transfer to the 1 Train.

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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by truck6018 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:58 am

Not just New Haven Line service suspended but ALL Metro North service.

I'm surprised the media has not blamed Metro North for this.

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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by TacSupport1 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:09 am

All lines suspended due to debris on tracks, also awaiting to see if any damaged caused by explosion/collapse.
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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by fl9m2004 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:28 am

I wonder if Amtrak would be able to help bring people to New York
Until service resumes when it will

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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by mohawkrailfan » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:48 am

Theoretically Amtrak could help the Hudson line by running extra trains from Riverdale to NYP. They would need more Amtrak P32AC-DMs, though, because per this thread I don't think Metro-North's P32ACs can run in Penn Station. I guess Amtrak could temporarily stop sending the P32AC-DMs to Niagara Falls and Rutland and use P42DCs for those routes instead.

There's also the huge problem of platform slots at NYP. Overall it's probably easier to let people take the 1 train from Marble Hill and hope for the best with the resultant congestion.

I don't know that much about the New Haven Line and what it would take to run extra trains over the Hell Gate route. But you still run into the NYP issues.
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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by Terminal Proceed » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:03 am

Lets not take a left turn for fantasy land here.

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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by Trainer » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:24 am

Interesting shot with the tracks in perspective:


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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by fl9m2004 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:26 am

I was looking at the pic of the train that split into 2 unless it was just 4 cars
It looked like an m7 or m8 because of the fans on top

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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by Trainer » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:34 am

WABC Radio is sayiing that trains are running and passengers going in both directions are being directed to take the subway in and out of the Bronx from GCT. They're also saying that Metro-North tickets are being honored on the subway.

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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by bellstbarn » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:57 am

Senator Charles Schumer may well hold a conference tomorrow demanding that Metro North build twenty-foot strong walls above track level on the Park Avenue viaduct to keep future debris and smoke off the tracks. Without federal funding.
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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by Travelsonic » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:36 pm

truck6018 wrote: I'm surprised the media has not blamed Metro North for this.
...

Given the circumstances behind the suspension, I doubt they'd do that - they're not that stupid.

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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by GCT Worker » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:46 pm

Travelsonic wrote:
truck6018 wrote: I'm surprised the media has not blamed Metro North for this.
...

Given the circumstances behind the suspension, I doubt they'd do that - they're not that stupid.

There will be second guessers demanding why it took so long
to re-open the tracks. Also questioning why a full schedule cannot
be implemented immediately.

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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by Ridgefielder » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:32 pm

I'm assuming that not a wheel is going to turn until the viaduct has been closely inspected for potential damage, and the authorities have verified that none of the buildings adjacent to the site of the explosion are in danger of collapse from the vibration of the trains.

How much equipment is stranded in the GCT yards as a result of this? My guess is the answer is "enough that schedules will be screwed up even if the line is reopened this afternoon."

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Re: Explosion, fire in Harlem suspends New Haven Line servic

Post by Tommy Meehan » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:40 pm

Ridgefielder wrote:I'm assuming that not a wheel is going to turn until the viaduct has been closely inspected for potential damage, and the authorities have verified that none of the buildings adjacent to the site of the explosion are in danger of collapse from the vibration of the trains...
I'm not riding today but for the sake of everyone who is, I am hoping they can get the trains rolling again for the PM rush. In the news photo posted above you can see there are track crews already on the viaduct. What might take some time is inspecting the other buildings. I got caught in one of those once. It took the inspectors a while to determine there was no danger of secondary collapse. The danger not only of the train vibrations causing it, but the danger to the trains if buildings collapsed onto the right-of-way.

Btw I just spoke by cell phone to a friend of mine who works for Metro-North at GCT. He's on his way home to Westchester. By subway! :-)

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