Shoreliner Discussion

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Re: Shoreliner V?

Post by DutchRailnut » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:43 am

right, but these days railroads are run by desk jockeys who have no clue on any practicality.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: Shoreliner V?

Post by Backshophoss » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:42 pm

Dutch,Believe that's a given now. :wink:
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Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by djmarco121 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:27 pm

The Shoreliner series cars are as follows

Shoreliner I 6101, 6103, 6105, 6107, 6109, 6150-6160,6162, 6164, 6166, 6201, 6203, 6205, 6207,6209,6223,6225,6227,6229, 6250-6260, 6262, 6264, 6266, 6268

Shoreliner II 6111, 6113,6115, 6117, 6161, 6163, 6165,6167-6174, 6121, 6123, 6175, 6177, 6179,6186, 6188, 6190, 6211, 6213, 6215, 6217,6219, 6270, 6272, 6274, 6276, 6278
Shoreliner III 6280-6286, 6288, 6301-6310, 6330-6372,6374, 6376, 6378, 6380, 6382, 6384,6386, 6388, 6390, 6392, 6294, 6396,6398, 6430, 6432, 6434, 6436, 6438,6440, 6442, 6444, 6446, 6448, 6450,6452, 6454, 6456, 6458, 6460, 6462,6464, 6466, 6468, 6470, 6472, 6474
Shoreliner IV 6221-6222, 6311-6320

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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by DutchRailnut » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:46 pm

Metro North (MTA) cars) Blue window band.
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6101 STORM KING(cab)
6103 HALF MOON (cab)
6105 TEAR OF THE CLOUDS (cab)
6107 CLEARWATER (cab)
6109 SCENIC HIGHLANDS (cab)
6111 THE MARIA MITCHELL COMET (cab)
6113 SENESQUA FLYER (cab)
6115 THE KNICKERBOCKER (cab)
6117 SUGAR MAPLE (cab)
6119 MANITOGA (cab)
6121 ICHABOD CRANE (cab)
6123 AMERICAN EAGLE (cab)
6125 former WHO cab 5175 no name
6127 former WHO cab 5176 no name
6129 former WHO cab 5177 no name
6131 former WHO cab 5178 no name
6134 former WHO 5986 no name
6136 former WHO 5987 no name
6138 former WHO 5988 no name
6140 former WOH 5989 no name
6142 former WOH 5990 no name
6143 former WHO 5980 no name
6144 former WOH 5991 no name
6145 former WHO 5981 no name
6146 former WOH 5992 no name
6147 former WHO 5982 no name
6148 former WOH 5993 no name
6149 former WHO 5983 no name
6150 ELEANOR ROOSEVELT
6151 HENRY HUDSON
6152 POUGHKEEPSIE
6153 DUTCHESS
6154 COLD SPRING
6155 WASHINGTON IRVING
6156 BEACON
6157 WESTCHESTER
6158 NEW HAMBURG
6159 PUTNAM
6160 GARRISON
6161 THOMAS WOLFE
6162 PEEKSKILL
6163 THELONIUS MONK
6164 MONTROSE
6165 JOHN CHEEVER
6166 CRUGERS
6167 RAVEN'S WAY
6168 THE MAHICAN
6169 THOMAS COLE
6170 EMPIRE STATE
6171 THE WATER LEVEL
6172 THE NORTH STAR
6173
6174 MATHEW VASSAR
6175 WORKING CLASS HERO
6176 SAMUEL MORSE (WOH name changed) Sloatsburg
6177 SHAD RUN
6178 GEORGE CLINTON (WOH kept same name)
6179 BANNERMANS ISLAND
6180 ROBERT FULTON (WOH name changed from Middletown )
6182 SALISBURY MILLS_CORNWALL
6184 JAMES FENNIMORE CLINTON
6186 NELSON ROCKEFELLER
6188 SOJOURNER TRUTH
6190 COMMODORE VANDERBILT


61** CORTLANDT

MNCR owns 20 CD cab cars 6301 thru 6320 including even numbered cab cars with toilet
MNCR owns 83 CD coaches 6330 thru 6474, some numbers missing as not every other car was toilet trailer


CONNECTICUT DEPT of Transportation fleet Red window band

6201 THE CONNECTICUT YANKEE (cab)
6203 THE DANBURY HATTER (cab)
6205 THE NUTMEGGER (cab)
6207 THE COAST WATCHER (cab)
6209 THE CHARTER OAK (cab)
6211 THE CONSTITUTION STATE(cab) at SLE ?? wrecked, Waterbury branch
6213 CANDLEWOOD LAKE (cab)
6215 THE BIRMINGHAM (cab)
6217 THE COAST WATCHER (cab)
6219 THE HUSKING BEE (cab) at SLE as 1687
6221 Red Center Door (cab) not named
6222 Red Center Door (cab) not named, ## wrong, as toilet car should be 6223, lead car in DV wreck.
6230 J.P. MORGAN ex SLE 1614
6232 HARRIET BEECHER STOWE ex SLE 1616
6234 UNCAS ex SLE 1640
6236 CEDAR HILL ex SLE 1642
6238 ELI WHITNEY ex SLE 1644
6240 GOVERNOR JOHNATAN TRUMBULL ex SLE 1646
6250 GOVERNOR JOHN N. DEMPSEY
6251 MOUNTAIN LAUREL
6252 GOVERNOR ELLA T GRASSO
6253 NATHAN HALE
6254 GOVERNOR RAYMOND E. BALDWIN
6255 NOAH WEBSTER
6256 BETHEL
6257 P.T. BARNUM (ex bar coach)
6258 BRANCHVILLE
6259 CHARLES IVES
6260 REDDING
6262 WILTON
6264 NORWALK (ex Bar coach)
6266 CANNONDALE
6268 FAIRFIELD COUNTY
6270 GOVERNOR. WILLIAM O”NIEL
6272 ROGER SHERMAN
6274 THE BRASS CITY
6276 THE NAUGATUCK VALLEY
6278 BEACON FALLS



1691 MARK TWAIN (SLE cab)
1693 THE YANKEE CLIPPER (SLE cab)
1695 THE CONNECTICUT RIVER (SLE cab)
1697 THE SLEEPING GIANT (SLE cab)


6281-6288 are 8 center door cars (red stripe) owned by CDOT, no names
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by RearOfSignal » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:57 pm

I hope this isn't another status thread.
Hurry up and wait at the signal!

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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by djmarco121 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:45 pm

RearOfSignal wrote:I hope this isn't another status thread.
No just more informational and a place to ask questions regarding these cars

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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by Stephen B. Carey » Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:14 pm

DutchRailnut wrote:Metro North (MTA) cars) Blue window band.
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6222 Red Center Door (cab) not named, ## wrong, as toilet car should be 6223, lead car in DV wreck.
DV wreck, was that the December derailment? I was just wondering what DV stood for? I am guessing the name of a control point or something, right?

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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by Clean Cab » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:15 am

Stephen B. Carey wrote:
DutchRailnut wrote:Metro North (MTA) cars) Blue window band.
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6222 Red Center Door (cab) not named, ## wrong, as toilet car should be 6223, lead car in DV wreck.
DV wreck, was that the December derailment? I was just wondering what DV stood for? I am guessing the name of a control point or something, right?
CDOT Cab Control Car #6222 was the lead car of the derailment/wreck at Spuyten Duyvil December 1, 2013. "DV" (short for Spuyten Duyvil) was the former name of the interlocking where it happened. Today the interlocking is called CP 12. I've heard the name Spuyten Duyvil comes from "Spitting Devil" due to the strong currents where the Hudson and Harlem River's meet.
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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by M1 9147 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:14 pm

You're forgetting the 16XX series cab cars were all renumbered 6223, 6225, 6227, and 6229! 1689 was renumbered back to its original 6219 "Husking Bee"!
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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by spidey3 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:52 pm

Anyone know if there is a plan to give these cars any interior renovation?

Many are starting to get rather nasty, with dirt on the floors which cannot be removed, smells which don't go away, and passenger-area-to-vestibule doors which don't stay closed...

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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by DutchRailnut » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:52 pm

All end door cars just finished a mid life overhaul about two years ago.
The Centerdoor cars have not been overhauled yet.
The end door cars came back like new, but hey even pig sty's are clean till you put pigs in them...
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by Tadman » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:02 pm

Sounds like my house... how'd you know????
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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by runningwithscalpels » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:05 pm

The only time I've ever rode any shoreliner equipment that was particularly filthy or stinky is on the Waterbury branch.

Usually I find them to be relatively clean on the Danbury branch!
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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by spidey3 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:40 am

DutchRailnut wrote:All end door cars just finished a mid life overhaul about two years ago.
The Centerdoor cars have not been overhauled yet.
I had noticed that -- end-door cars are mostly better (with a few exceptions). There's a few cab cars too which are kind of nasty.
The end door cars came back like new, but hey even pig sty's are clean till you put pigs in them...
That is certainly the fact! I think the worst I saw was the guy who took off his shoes and socks and was clipping his toenails on the train - at the same time that someone else spilled their 25 oz. can of Fosters. The sight of the snipped nails floating down the length of the car on a sea of spilled beer - priceless!

Also, I have to confess that I have a visceral reaction to fake wood grain. Somehow it looks old and dirty to me even when it is new...

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Re: Shoreliner Car Thread

Post by Tadman » Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:03 pm

Fake wood grain screams "Bad idea from 1968" although the new fake wood grain used in superliner sleepers is a much warmer color than the typical faux-walnut found in most commuter trains.
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