Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

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Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by jtunnel » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:52 am

Large Weeks barge mounted crane at Bush Terminal this morning. Looks to be moving the pontoon transfer bridge. Hope this is not the end of an era, but only a temporary move.

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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by freightguy » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:31 pm

It's going to the Greenville side so they can float to both sides.
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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by jtunnel » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:52 pm

Here's a couple of grab photos.

At 10AM, being rigged:

http://jtunnel.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=3283248

At Noon, already on the barge:

http://jtunnel.rrpicturearchives.net/sh ... id=3283249

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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by Teutobergerwald » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:47 pm

Didn't the float bridges on the Brooklyn side sink during the hurricane?
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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by jtunnel » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:06 am

Brooklyn fared well. Greenville got hit bad, and it is reported the the PANYNJ has torn down the old PRR Transfer Bridges. The sad end of a era.

The reason for the movement of the Bush Terminal Bridge. Hopefully traffic can resume soon.

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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by JoeRailRoad » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:26 pm

jtunnel wrote:Brooklyn fared well. Greenville got hit bad, and it is reported the the PANYNJ has torn down the old PRR Transfer Bridges. The sad end of a era.

The reason for the movement of the Bush Terminal Bridge. Hopefully traffic can resume soon.
For more information and pictures please check here:
http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/indloc ... #Hurricane

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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by deandremouse » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:22 am

JoeRailRoad wrote:
jtunnel wrote:Brooklyn fared well. Greenville got hit bad, and it is reported the the PANYNJ has torn down the old PRR Transfer Bridges. The sad end of a era.

The reason for the movement of the Bush Terminal Bridge. Hopefully traffic can resume soon.
For more information and pictures please check here:
http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/indloc ... #Hurricane

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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by mikey cruz » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:28 am

I guess out of the 4 transfer bridges over there none were repairable status. Well at least NYNJ has the 2 new bridges on the Brooklyn side.

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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by Backshophoss » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:37 am

From looking at the link JoeRR provided,most of the foundations for the old PRR bridges had been damaged to the point
that any kind of salvage was not possible,and unsafe as well. 1 of the lift towers had shifted to the next lift tower over.
2 out 4 of the bridges were unusable to begin with,however,some parts of the PRR bridges were saved for museum use.
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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by freightguy » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:01 pm

Service should be up in a week or two. Obviously everything being floated between 65st and the new pontoon installed on the Greenville side. From the Bush side you could make out the black float bridge gantries. They were easier to trace on a clear day with the headlight of the locomotive loading the floats on the Jersey side.

Are the 2 gantry cable houses in Long Island City with "Long Island" painted on them the last left now in NY harbor?
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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by DogBert » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:29 pm

freightguy wrote:

Are the 2 gantry cable houses in Long Island City with "Long Island" painted on them the last left now in NY harbor?
I think there's still one on the west side of manhattan just south of 72nd street at what was the old NYC yard. The new park there also has that ex BEDT S2 painted in NYC black & lettering...

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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by BEDT 14 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:58 pm

Gentlemen,

The Gantries at Long Island City (Queens) and West 69th (Manhattan), and Brooklyn Navy Yard (Brooklyn) are French Patent a/k/a "contained apron" type transfer bridges. This type had a single gantry for two side by side individual track spans, and as the apron was contained within the span end.

The former Greenville gantries (2 gantries: one for the span and one for the apron) were the last of their type in NY Harbor. The transfer bridges at Greenville were of the "seperate apron" type or Bensel Patent.

Previous "seperate apron" transfer bridges in the New York Harbor area were located at:
  • 8 at NYNH&H Oak Point (Bronx),
    • 4 at B&O St George (Staten Island),
      • 1 at PRR West 37th Street (Manhattan), and
        • at least 4 at PRR Harsimus Cove (New Jersey).
All of these were torn down many decades ago.

I highly recommend reading the following to learn the design differences of the various types of transfer bridges used within New York Harbor:

http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/indloc ... ridge.html

This link here is to a table of the types of all known float bridges in NY Harbor, when and where used, and those that have been subsequently relocated and/or surviving in New York Harbor area:

http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/indloc ... rlist.html

Sincerely,

Phil
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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by BEDT 14 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:03 pm

DogBert wrote:
The new park there also has that ex BEDT S2 painted in NYC black & lettering...
The ex-BEDT locomotive (BEDT #25) in New York Central livery is an ALCo S1. No turbo, Blunt Trucks. ;)

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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by DogBert » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:32 pm

I could never tell those apart & was too lazy to google :)

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Re: Bush Terminal transfer bridge work.

Post by BEDT 14 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:51 pm

DogBert wrote:I could never tell those apart & was too lazy to google :)
It took me years to learn the differences. Not that it really makes a difference either.. LOL
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