Buckeye & Big Four Yards

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gettingrey
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Buckeye & Big Four Yards

Post by gettingrey » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:03 pm

Just finished a book by Jerry Taylor, "A Sampling of Penn Central". I was wondering what has become of Buckeye & Big Four yards?

Matt Langworthy
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Re: Buckeye & Big Four Yards

Post by Matt Langworthy » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:53 am

Buckeye Yard was mothballed by NS a couple years ago. From what I could find online, it was useful for PC and Conrail but not so much for NS. With Bellevue to the north and Cincinnati to the south, those 2 yards can handle the NS traffic for Ohio.
Matt Langworthy

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3rd out nuthin comin
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Re: Buckeye & Big Four Yards

Post by 3rd out nuthin comin » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:47 pm

At a meeting during the early days of Conrail, someone posed a legitimate question, "What 's Buckeye's primary function?" (You know, like Whiskey Island is coal (and Frontier is snow.))

The answer, given by a knowledgeable operating guy, was, "It keeps Conway from bumping into Avon." Catching his humorous tone, someone else volunteered, "Buckeye is our main source of hump-damaged cabins." [Not factually supportable; we could get hump-damaged cabooses virtually anywhere.]

The point is that Buckeye's usefulness was questioned even at the beginning of Conrail.

Additionally, I suspect Buckeye's value was questioned even before Conrail because the managers at the meeting were pretty much all former Penn Central men. The significant thing to me is that these Conrail managers were not former Penn Central managers, but mostly Penn Central operating personnel.

shlustig
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Re: Buckeye & Big Four Yards

Post by shlustig » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:19 pm

Just a minor note:

Whiskey Island handled iron ore / taconite on the Dock (site of the Huletts) and Salt from the mine, not coal.

The PRR Cleveland Coal Dock was east of the River and was abandoned in favor of Ashtabula and Sandusky long before the PC merger.

3rd out nuthin comin
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Re: Buckeye & Big Four Yards

Post by 3rd out nuthin comin » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:01 pm

Minor point perhaps, but important to keep the record straight. Thanks, Shel.

(I did get the Frontier thing right, though.)

Todd

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