Stop! Don't PANYC!!

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Stop! Don't PANYC!!

Post by Otto Vondrak » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:30 pm

Wow... anyone ever see these before? A protest pin against the PRR+NYC merger. What do you get when you merge the Pennsylvania with the NYC? PA-NYC!

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Post by dcm74 » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:36 pm

They worked almost as well as the Dewey For President buttons.

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Post by ThePointyHairedBoss » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:13 pm

Yeah, PAYNC should have been the name of the railroad.

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Re: Stop! Don't PANYC!!

Post by Noel Weaver » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:26 am

Otto Vondrak wrote:Wow... anyone ever see these before? A protest pin against the PRR+NYC merger. What do you get when you merge the Pennsylvania with the NYC? PA-NYC!

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This is from the book The Wreck of the Penn Central which I highly
recommend to all.
There was an individual in Pennsylvania who was very much opposed to
the merger of the Pennsylvania and the New York Central and he was
also the Democratic candidate for governor during the period. He was
elected governor in 1970. He may have been responsible for the pin in
the picture. There is a whole chapter in the above book devoted to this
person. His name was Milton Shapp.
There is a lot more about this ill-fated merger in the book.
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Post by Dieter » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:58 pm

Interesting that it is not "PRRNYC", as at that point in history, the abbreviation for Pennsylvania was "PENN". We didn't cut State abbreviations to two letters for at least another decade, with "Penn" contracted to "PA".

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Post by KillerB » Mon May 12, 2008 11:23 pm

According to my parents, who were alive at the time, Pennsylvania had been referred to as "P.A." in local speak long before the Postal Service went to two-letter state abbreviations.

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Post by rnetzlof » Fri May 23, 2008 12:48 pm

[quote="Dieter"]...at that point in history, the abbreviation for Pennsylvania was "PENN"...[/quote]

Nay sir. When I was in grade school, 1950 and earlier, the teachers were fighting a battle against the "old fashioned" Penna, in favor of the sleek, modern, up-to-date Pa. with side excursions into "if you insist on Penna, remember it is a contraction, not an abbreviation, hence it must not be followed by a period".

I can't recall a time when Penn was used as an abbreviation for the name of the commonwealth.

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Post by rnetzlof » Fri May 23, 2008 12:49 pm

[quote="Dieter"]...at that point in history, the abbreviation for Pennsylvania was "PENN"...[/quote]

Nay sir. When I was in grade school, 1950 and earlier, the teachers were fighting a battle against the "old fashioned" Penna, in favor of the sleek, modern, up-to-date Pa. with side excursions into "if you insist on Penna, remember it is a contraction, not an abbreviation, hence it must not be followed by a period".

I can't recall a time when Penn was used as an abbreviation for the name of the commonwealth.

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Post by walt » Tue May 27, 2008 8:55 pm

There were some Pennsylvania entities which used "Penn" in their names, or in abbreviations of their names ( The Southern Pennsylvania Traction Company- later known as the Southern Pennsylvania Bus Company- both entities were known coloquially as the "Southern Penn"; and the Central Penn Bank are two which come to mind) but, as has been noted, the two "official" abbreviations in those days were Penna and PA.
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Re: Stop! Don't PANYC!!

Post by Dieter » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:34 am

Aren't we lucky they didn't try and call the merged mess "PACENT"?

Then we all could have nicknamed the railroad "The BIG ZERO", which is pretty much as it ended up.

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