Septa push pull overview

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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by mcgrath618 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:34 am

The 8 car set did NOT overnight in Powelton last night. I am unsure as to its location.

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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by R3 Passenger » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:37 am

The 8 car set ran to Trenton on 1703 this morning approx 10 mins late.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by Silverliner II » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:33 pm

Regarding the three above posts: The usual shenanigans affecting equipment availability are in full force as always. :-D
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by phillymountainrailfan » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:15 am

Silverliner II wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:19 am
rcthompson04 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:24 pm
So are the Trenton and Wilmington sets all overnighting at Powelton now? Paoli-Thorndale 1502 (turned and ran to Wilmington usually) and 9553 were push-pull previously. The set would overnight along with the two others at Frazer nightly.
One Trenton set parks overnights and weekends at Powelton. The other remains at Trenton.
The Wilmington set overnights at Roberts; 1502 is MU's now, and I think it later deadheads out to Elwyn for 9340.

Currently, the current PP assignments (if all goes as planned during the day) are as follows:

West Trenton
Set 1 (MARC set with SEPTA cab): 6325/6374
Set 2: 6321/6378

Trenton (8-car sets)
Set 1: 9724/9745
Set 2: DH Powelton to Suburban Station/1703/9728/9747/DH to Powelton

Paoli-Thorndale
Set 1: 9526/9561 Great Valley Flyer
Set 2: 9538/1565

Wilmington-Newark
Set 1: 1295/9212, 9251/9254

boomer wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:11 pm
Silverliner II wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:01 am
And then there were five. Cab car 2410 is out and about from its overhaul. I don't know which car is next, but only five remain to be done: 2402, 2403, 2404, 2406, and 2409.
#2406 undergoing overhaul at this time.
Roger that!!!
The assignments flipped again:
West Trenton sets
Watch the septa app septa likes to sometimes put the Marc cars on 6321

Trenton sets
9724/9745 is a 6 car set
1703/9728/9747 is the only 8 car set

Thorndale and Newark sets
No change with the 9526/9561
9538 set goes to Newark in the evening as 9251/9254
1565 set is the morning Newark trains 1295/9212

The only thing that may change is the cab car and engine of the sets.

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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by Silverliner II » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:23 pm

phillymountainrailfan wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:15 am
Trenton sets
9724/9745 is a 6 car set
1703/9728/9747 is the only 8 car set
That's a change. Both sets started out as 8-car sets.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by CNJGeep » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:01 pm

Amtrak almost immediately balked at the set that laid over in Trenton being eight cars, so that went to seven from the first Monday (the eight car set did run on Friday 9/27 on 9724 at least). It went to six after one of the cars got shopped and they didn't have a spare. Not sure why it hasn't gone back to seven.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by Silverliner II » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:26 pm

CNJGeep wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:01 pm
Amtrak almost immediately balked at the set that laid over in Trenton being eight cars, so that went to seven from the first Monday (the eight car set did run on Friday 9/27 on 9724 at least). It went to six after one of the cars got shopped and they didn't have a spare. Not sure why it hasn't gone back to seven.
Can't see why Amtrak would have an issue. Back when the PP trains were all only 5 cars before the coming of the center-door coaches, they parked that set AND a 3-car MU set on #7 track each night. That's 8 coaches and a loco with space in between them. So one 8-car set would be no issue, space-wise. But... *shrugs*
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by mcgrath618 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:02 pm

The MARC set is nowhere to be found in Powelton Yard. Where it normally sits is occupied by a full set of Comets.

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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by phillymountainrailfan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:08 am

mcgrath618 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:02 pm
The MARC set is nowhere to be found in Powelton Yard. Where it normally sits is occupied by a full set of Comets.
The set was sent to suburban station yesterday to be 1565 last night. It will be interesting to see what it will run as this morning.

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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by R3 Passenger » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:53 am

9724/9745 is 7 cars again.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by mcgrath618 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:54 pm

MARC cars are back on the West Trenton Line.

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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by Silverliner II » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:15 pm

phillymountainrailfan wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:08 am
mcgrath618 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:02 pm
The MARC set is nowhere to be found in Powelton Yard. Where it normally sits is occupied by a full set of Comets.
The set was sent to suburban station yesterday to be 1565 last night. It will be interesting to see what it will run as this morning.
Likely it went to Frazer for inspections and maybe a swap out of locomotive or cab car, perhaps both. They'll have to rotate it out there once in a while for that reason. It's back on its usual 6374 tonight.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by blizzard » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:39 pm

Saw the MARC set with a SEPTA ACS pushing it on the main line just east of Overbrook yesterday morning while I was on an Amtrak Keystone westbound.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by Silverliner II » Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:14 pm

blizzard wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:39 pm
Saw the MARC set with a SEPTA ACS pushing it on the main line just east of Overbrook yesterday morning while I was on an Amtrak Keystone westbound.
Yep, it went out on 1565 on Tuesday evening, came back in Wednesday morning, and went back to its West Trenton assignment Wednesday evening. Went to Frazer for inspections.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by rcthompson04 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:57 am

9524 is back running push on the Paoli Thorndale Line this morning.

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