NJT won't meet PTC Deadline

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Re: NJT won't meet PTC Deadline

Post by JamesRR » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:10 am

Just read an article about NJT had to get creative to meet the deadline - creative as in 'they haven't completed it yet.'

I rode on one example last Saturday from New York to Trenton - a push pull train with a cab car in front of the locomotive, which apparently was not PTC-equipped yet:
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Apparently they are not letting people ride in this car (likely because it's unable to be opened in line with the other cars).
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Re: NJT won't meet PTC Deadline

Post by ThirdRail7 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:52 am

Things are dragging on the PTC front. Testing will get pushed back, which means less time to identify bugs and provide solutions.


https://www.nj.com/traffic/2019/10/nj-t ... dmits.html

NJ Transit’s $302M safety system project is delayed 5 months, contractor admits
By Larry Higgs | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

“In September, Alstrom notified us the software exhibited anomalies, which didn’t allow complete certification for testing in revenue service,” Krull said.

That testing was scheduled to start in November and now will be pushed back to March 2020. Plans called for testing on the full Morristown line and Montclair-Boonton lines to start in November, and all other rail lines to follow with testing during the “rest of this year into next year,” Krull said.

“That’s a major shift in schedule,” he said. “The good news is it allowed us to catch it in a timely manner to come to a resolution.”

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Re: NJT won't meet PTC Deadline

Post by pumpers » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:22 am

News article on FRA report card on NJ Transit progress on implementation of PTC:
https://www.nj.com/traffic/2019/11/nj-t ... rains.html

It says 100% of locomotives and track are PTC ready, and 94% of employees (presumably meaning engineers) are trained. And it mentions the delays in testing described in the previous post.

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Re: NJT won't meet PTC Deadline

Post by lensovet » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:34 pm

https://explore.dot.gov/t/FRA/views/PTC ... VizHome=no

Interesting comparison among the various railroads. Worth noting that from these boards and comments on the Star-Ledger, you'd think NJT would be bottom of the barrel in terms of their progress but they are far from it.

I am a little confused on the PTC testing aspect though. On the one hand it says testing was pushed back from November '19 to May '20; OTOH it says that there is a 17-mile test track on the M&E and that the schedule for testing remains unchanged. What?
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Re: NJT won't meet PTC Deadline

Post by EuroStar » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:09 am

lensovet wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:34 pm
I am a little confused on the PTC testing aspect though. On the one hand it says testing was pushed back from November '19 to May '20; OTOH it says that there is a 17-mile test track on the M&E and that the schedule for testing remains unchanged. What?
I am also not 100% sure of the terminology used, but I think the 17-mile track on the M&E is "demonstration" track, while "testing" refers to testing *all* components of the system from hardware to software on *all* lines. The "demonstration" track is probably used to prove that the hardware and software being installed are capable of doing the PTC thing, while testing needs to show that they are able to do the PTC thingy everywhere that PTC is required.

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