NJTransit to borrow from MARC

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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by trainster78 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:08 pm

blockline4180 wrote:
trainster78 wrote:
BVERailer wrote:When are they coming? I'm hoping we get some up on the Pascack Valley Line!
Most likely these coaches will be used to relieve the ALP-45DP fleet on the Northeast Corridor and North Jersey Coast Lines which have been stuck on the end of trains which would usually have an ALP-46 for power, if your on the PVL, most likely you'll be seeing more DP's. That's what I've heard, anyway.


Heard the same thing, but I doubt anything has arrived yet so it may be some time.

I did see a ALP46 and DP locomotive on each end today at Denville. There are a few NJCL and Corridor sets that make their way up to Dover and possibly MSU during the midday hours, but don't know the exact assignments.
Usually the NJCL 2600 (Long Branch-Hoboken) sets run up to Hoboken in the Morning and then to Dover mid-day, then return to Hoboken for the southbound NJCL rush. That has been my own observation.

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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by andrewjw » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:44 am

It's a little hard to tell at close to 200mph relative speed, but my northbound Regional just passed some very MARC-looking cars on the southbound local between Princeton Junction and Hamilton.

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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by blockline4180 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:08 pm

andrewjw wrote:It's a little hard to tell at close to 200mph relative speed, but my northbound Regional just passed some very MARC-looking cars on the southbound local between Princeton Junction and Hamilton.

From everything I heard and from the people I spoke too I doubt the MARC cars are in service yet or even on the property.. What you may have seen is them being delivered to MMC or something entirely different.
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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by blockline4180 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:29 pm

The original plan was for NJT to lease 20 MARC commuter cars but the article says 10. My guess is because only 10 were available this time around.. No??
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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by TSTII » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:50 pm

So all this political hype that 'help' is on the way and the net result is ONE 10-car train to the rescue ????

Is this a joke ?

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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by blockline4180 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:32 pm

TSTII wrote:So all this political hype that 'help' is on the way and the net result is ONE 10-car train to the rescue ????

Is this a joke ?

No joke. You can never trust a political press conference or newspaper article with the so called "facts". Although, one cant tell if the original plan was infact to borrow 20, without checking with MARC first if they were available. Bad PR move if true.
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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by trainster78 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:48 pm

JamesRR wrote:
mtuandrew wrote:
trainster78 wrote:Not a chance. The Comet III's NJTR still have are rusting away at Bay Head Yard (NJCL) with graffiti all over. I saw that first hand not to long ago. However, bringing the Comet IV's back wouldn't be a bad idea.
I thought the IVs were still in service. Where did they go?
Me too? I know I've seen some in morning consists. I assume they're put in for accessibility reasons.
What I meant by that was the Comet IV Cabs, they were taken out of leading service due to the fact that the EPIC system they have is out of date, and now I guess they do not have PTC installed. You can periodically see them on the NJCL, NEC, and ME lines trailing behind the locomotive. Some of them are used as protect cabcars, connected to the protect unit so they are capable of higher speeds.

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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:54 pm

Any updates on when we will start seeing MARC trainsets operating in NJT service? What lines will see them operating the most?

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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by blockline4180 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:23 am

njt/mnrrbuff wrote:Any updates on when we will start seeing MARC trainsets operating in NJT service? What lines will see them operating the most?
Have no idea, but my guess is 1 train car set of 10 used exclusively on the NEC and/or NJCL. Sullivan may know more.
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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:47 am

It wouldn’t surprise me that they use them on the two that you mentioned especially the NEC, maybe on one of the Jersey Ave or Trenton expresses. Using them on a Coastline express train during the summer isn’t a bad idea either.

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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by ST214 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:13 am

If MARC does not have enough equipment, the MBTA has some very worn MBB’s available.
Hoping for a rebirth of the Screamer fleet.

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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by ALP45DP 4515 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:52 pm

Wouldn't it be more efficient to split the 10 cars into two trains of 5 cars?

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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by sullivan1985 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:35 pm

ALP45DP 4515 wrote:Wouldn't it be more efficient to split the 10 cars into two trains of 5 cars?
Being that the MARC cars can not be combined with NJT cars due to different trainline systems, probably not. I suspect you will see one 8-car set with two MARC cars as spares in the event something is shopped.

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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by TSTII » Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:37 pm

Do we have any photos of these 10 cars either when active on MARC or in storage ?

If already posted please redirect me....thanks

Sully -

Are these cars limited to being hauled by only certain NJT locos ? Presume that a cab car or two are part of the lease ?

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Re: NJTransit to borrow from MARC

Post by DutchRailnut » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:59 pm

These MARC II a and MARC II b cars made by Sumitomo do not have compatible door train lines. but they do have standard 27 point control systems .
same the 480 volt HEP train lines are standard.
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