Hurricane Sandy

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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by ThirdRail7 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:21 pm

Mbta fan wrote:They only canceled trains for tomorrow. That's intersting. You would think Amtrak would cancel trains till Wednesday to be on the safe side. Cantanary will be a big problem besides flooding for Nj transit as well as Amtrak.
That might be overkill. Suppose this thing IS a dud? We'll have to wait and see.

Now, are we going to be treated to the sight of NJT equipment perched atop the NJCL turnpike bridge? :)
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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by lirr42 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:51 pm

NJ Transits Severe Weather Information Page wrote:NJ TRANSIT to begin gradual suspension of service starting Sunday afternoon

NJ TRANSIT will implement a gradual system-wide shutdown of all bus, rail, light rail and Access Link service, starting at 4 p.m. on Sunday, October 28 and continuing through 2 a.m. on Monday morning.

Service suspensions will take effect as follows:

Rail Service
The Atlantic City Rail Line will be suspended effective at 4 p.m. on Sunday, October 28, due to the rapidly declining weather conditions within the region and the continued evacuation of Atlantic City:
-->Train 4678 will be the last train departing Atlantic City, leaving at 2:43 p.m. and arriving in Philadelphia at 4:19 p.m.
-->Train 4677 will be the last Atlantic City-bound train departing Philadelphia, leaving at 1:43 p.m. and arriving in Atlantic City at 3:19 p.m.
-->Train 4679 will be the last train departing Philadelphia, leaving at 2:38 p.m. and terminating in Absecon at 4 p.m.

All other rail lines will be suspended starting this afternoon and continuing into the late evening. Final train times are as follows:
Northeast Corridor
|---->Train 7876 will be the last train departing Trenton, leaving at 10:59 p.m. and arriving New York at 12:30 a.m.
|---->Train 7885 will be the last train departing New York, leaving at 11:14 p.m., and arriving in Trenton at 12:44 a.m.

North Jersey Coast Line
|---->Train 4772 will be the last train departing Bay Head, leaving at 9:21 p.m. and arriving in Long Branch at 10 p.m.
|---->Train 7272 will be the last train departing Long Branch, leaving at 10:06 p.m. and arriving New York at 11:42 p.m. (Secaucus 11:29 p.m.)
|---->Train 7285 will be the last train departing New York, leaving at 11:07 p.m. and arriving in Long Branch at 12:43 a.m. (Secaucus 11:16 p.m.)
|---->Train 4785 will be the last train departing Long Branch, leaving at 12:46 a.m. and arriving Bay Head at 1:28 a.m.

Raritan Valley Line
|---->Train 5538 will be the last train departing Raritan, leaving at 8:16 p.m. and arriving in Newark Penn Station at 11:15 p.m.
|---->Train 5543 will be the last train departing Newark Penn Station, leaving at 11:38 p.m. and arriving in Raritan at 12:44 a.m.

Morris & Essex Lines
|----> Train 742 will be the last train departing Gladstone, leaving at 9:52 p.m. and arriving at Summit 10:36 p.m. and connecting with Train 6942
|---->Train 6942 will be the last train departing Dover, leaving at 10:06 p.m. and arriving in New York at 11:39 p.m.
|---->Train 6945 will be the last train departing New York, leaving at 11:11 p.m. and arriving in Dover at 12:54 a.m. (Connecting trains at Newark Broad Street for Montclair Branch Train 545, and Summit for Gladstone Train 745.)
|----> Train 745 will be the last train departing Summit, leaving at 12:14 a.m. and arriving in Gladstone at 12:58 a.m.

Montclair-Boonton Line
|----> Train 538 will be the last train departing Bay Street Montclair, leaving at 9 p.m. and arriving in Hoboken at 9:38 p.m.
|---->Train 545 will be the last train departing Hoboken, leavingat 11:08 p.m. and arriving in Bay Street Montclair at 11:45 p.m.

Main Line
|---->Train 1732 will be the last train departing Suffern, leaving at 9:10 p.m. and arriving Hoboken 9:19 p.m.
|---->Train 1739 will be the last train departing Hoboken, leaving at 11:33 p.m. and arriving Suffern at 12:42 a.m.

Bergen County Line
|---->Train 1786 will be the last train departing Suffern, leaving at 11:56 p.m. and arriving at Hoboken at 1 a.m. (Note: There is no Secaucus connection.)
|---->Train 1787 will be the last train departing Hoboken, leaving at 10:30 p.m. and arriving Suffern at 11:36 p.m.

Port Jervis Line
|---->Train 80 will be the last train departing Port Jervis, leaving at 5:27 p.m. and arriving in Hoboken at 7:38 p.m.
|----> Train 79 will be the last train departing Hoboken, leaving at 6:15 p.m. and arriving at Port Jervis at 8:23 p.m. (Note: Customers connecting at Secaucus must use Train 7265, departing New York Penn Station at 6:07 p.m. and arriving at Secaucus at 6:16 p.m. to make the Port Jervis connection.)

Pascack Valley Line
|---->Train 2126 will be the last train departing Spring Valley, leaving at 8:10 p.m. and arriving at Hoboken 9:20 p.m.
|---->Train 2133 will be the last train departing Hoboken, leaving at 11:22 p.m. and arriving at Spring Valley at 12:32 a.m.

Indoor waiting rooms at major rail hubs such as Newark Penn Station, Secaucus Junction and Trenton Transit Center will remain open to provide customerswith shelter during the storm.


Bus Service:
All NJ TRANSIT bus service to and from Atlantic City will be suspended at midnight.
All other NJ TRANSIT bus service will be suspended effective 2 a.m. Monday, October 29, 2012.
NJ TRANSIT buses that are already en route at 2 a.m. will complete their trips.


Light Rail Service:
|>Hudson-Bergen, River Line and Newark light rail services will be suspended effective 2 a.m. Monday, October 29, 2012.
|>Light rail services that are already en route at 2 a.m. will complete their trips.


System-wide Cross-Honoring
System-wide cross-honoring of all rail, bus and light rail tickets will be in effect starting at Monday, 12:00 a.m. and continuing through Wednesday, 6 a.m. This will allow customers holding NJ TRANSIT tickets to use alternate means of transportation to get to their final destination, such as PATH, PATCO and private bus carriers. Due to the duration of the storm and the potential impact to the NJ TRANSIT system, this timeframe could be extended if necessary.

Following the conclusion of the storm, NJ TRANSIT will assess the status of the system and test critical infrastructure before making any decisions regarding the potential resumption of service.


Service Updates
For the latest travel information, customers should listen to broadcast traffic reports, visit njtransit.com or access NJ TRANSIT’s Twitter feed at @NJ_TRANSIT. Additionally, NJ TRANSIT will provide the most current service information via the My Transit alert system (www.njtransit.com/mytransit), which delivers travel advisories for your specific trip to your cell phone, PDA or pager. Service information is also available by calling (973) 275-5555.
More information here: NJ Transit Severe Weather Information Page

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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by 25Hz » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:28 pm

Mbta fan wrote:They only canceled trains for tomorrow. That's intersting. You would think Amtrak would cancel trains till Wednesday to be on the safe side. Cantanary will be a big problem besides flooding for Nj transit as well as Amtrak.
One day at a time son.

Tuesday may see truncated service due to infrastructure damage, and i don't see them running trains till tuesday mid-day at the earliest. For all we know the storm could stall and the resulting flooding would be a very serious problem. Amtrak would have to run the track geometry cars etc to make sure nothing subsided or shifted, and they would need to run a few empties just to make sure everything was ok to go.
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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by morris&essex4ever » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:31 pm

For all we know, this storm could be a dud just like the March 2001 "Storm of the Century" that wasn't.
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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by 25Hz » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:44 pm

Or it could follow its projected forecasts and be at least 2x as bad as Irene.
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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by morris&essex4ever » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:23 pm

If Sandy ends up being a nice girl, is there a chance Transit takes back it's decision to shut down service?
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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by Steve F45 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:25 pm

its not going to be a dud, people are going to be surprised at how bad it turns out. Alot people not taking it seriously as to the strength of this storm when it finally hits.

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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by airman00 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:37 pm

Steve F45 wrote:its not going to be a dud, people are going to be surprised at how bad it turns out. Alot people not taking it seriously as to the strength of this storm when it finally hits.

I agree this storm will be bad.

In line with that... I notice the last train on the PVL leaves Hoboken and ends in Spring Valley. Will they be pulling out that and any other trainsets in spring valley or leaving them? Because... if Westwood floods out like during Irene then any trainsets on the other side will be stranded.

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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by lirr42 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:38 pm

morris&essex4ever wrote:If Sandy ends up being a nice girl, is there a chance Transit takes back it's decision to shut down service?
Shutting down a railroad is not as simple as throwing an on/off switch. Shutting down and starting up a whole railroad is an several hour long process

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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by jamesinclair » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:22 pm

morris&essex4ever wrote:For all we know, this storm could be a dud just like the March 2001 "Storm of the Century" that wasn't.
At this point, theres like a 1% chance it will be a dud. The models all agree on where its going.

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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by Jtgshu » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:43 pm

Well im signing off for now, I dunno when Ill be back online, but best of luck to everyone during this disaster.....stay safe and dry and warm, and hopefully no one (including myself) faces too much damage.

As for the railroad, its one day at a time - got a message that all trains and assignments are annulled for tomorrow (Monday) - no mention about Tuesday, at least not yet. I would be VERY surprised if service ran on Tuesday and depending on how long this goes on for, maybe even Wednesday. Id figure a day after things kind of clear out for inspections and repairs, and MAYBE Thursday, some service will be running. Im just guessing here, as I don't think ANYONE knows how this thing is going to turn out.

Here we go!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by charlie6017 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:46 pm

Good luck to all you people down there........hope this thing isn't as potent as advertised!!

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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by morris&essex4ever » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:41 pm

lirr42 wrote:
morris&essex4ever wrote:If Sandy ends up being a nice girl, is there a chance Transit takes back it's decision to shut down service?
Shutting down a railroad is not as simple as throwing an on/off switch. Shutting down and starting up a whole railroad is an several hour long process
True that, can't believe I thought it would be so easy. ;)
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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by acelaphillies » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:00 pm

Where is NJT storing large amounts of its equipment?

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Re: Hurricane issues and recovery time

Post by MBTA1016 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:05 pm

charlie6017 wrote:Good luck to all you people down there........hope this thing isn't as potent as advertised!!

Charlie

Good luck to those down in New Jersey and surrounding areas. The governer of MA requested that all school,businesses etc close tomorrow. Thankfully my schools superintendent listened, and canceled school for tomorrow.
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