Consist definitions

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Consist definitions

Post by Amtrak7 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:55 pm

Through the Freedom of Information Law, I have been able to obtain the Spring 2011 ridership books for all 3 lines. However, unlike LIRR's version, there is no intro or explanatory info, just the data, so I have a bunch of questions:

-How many seats are in each type of EOH equipment? SLE equipment?
-Diesel sets are split into CD and PP. What's the difference?
-New Haven peak service doesn't list train lengths. Off peak divides the equipment types into "MM", "MMC", and "M8". I would assume MM means M2/4/6, but what's MMC?

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Re: Consist definitions

Post by andre » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:33 am

im assuming the MM stands for Metropolitans which were the m1/3's and the MMC is for the Connecticut cars which were called Cosmopolitans when they were new M2/4/6 (i may be wrong)
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Re: Consist definitions

Post by Amtrak7 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:16 am

andre wrote:im assuming the MM stands for Metropolitans which were the m1/3's and the MMC is for the Connecticut cars which were called Cosmopolitans when they were new M2/4/6 (i may be wrong)
But the term "MM" is only used on the NHL. Obviously M1/3's can't run on the NHL...

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Re: Consist definitions

Post by DutchRailnut » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:08 pm

PP is end door Push Pull cars (bombardier and CD is Center Door Bombardier pp has either 124 seats for trailer with toilet or 131 seats on trailer without, the CD cars have about 20 less seats.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: Consist definitions

Post by Amtrak7 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:45 pm

DutchRailnut wrote:PP is end door Push Pull cars (bombardier and CD is Center Door Bombardier pp has either 124 seats for trailer with toilet or 131 seats on trailer without, the CD cars have about 20 less seats.
Thanks, that's one part. What about the capacity of the MU's?

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Re: Consist definitions

Post by DutchRailnut » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:09 pm

M2's have 118 in A car and 114 in B car, don't have numbers for M4/6 and M-8's
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: Consist definitions

Post by Amtrak7 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:25 pm

DutchRailnut wrote:M2's have 118 in A car and 114 in B car, don't have numbers for M4/6 and M-8's
Thanks. M3A's?

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Re: Consist definitions

Post by Otto Vondrak » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:33 am

Amtrak7 wrote:
DutchRailnut wrote:M2's have 118 in A car and 114 in B car, don't have numbers for M4/6 and M-8's
Thanks. M3A's?
See also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1/M3_%28railcar%29
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