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Post by ANDY117 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:54 pm

What's the difference between a FL9m and a FL9ac?

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Post by DutchRailnut » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:31 pm

FL9m's are the 6 CDOT (NH painted) units rebuilkt by M-K.
FL9AC's are the 2040-46 they are FL-9's on steroids with AC propulsion built by ABB in Elmira.
Danbury has the 2011 on 3 car shuttle and two car shuttle has 413 in lead and 2016 behind.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Post by Maybrook fan » Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:36 pm

As of Monday the 2014 & 2024 were still doing the upper Harlem Shuffle. And not to pick on Mr. Vondrak, but they make a good shot "ANYWHERE at ANYTIME" !!!!

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Post by Otto Vondrak » Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:01 pm

I agree! But don't pick on Mr. Vondrak, that's my dad... you can pick on me all you like!

Who remembers the FL9 sandwiches of 2002? Was hoping that MN might try that again for the Harlem... shades of the 1970s!
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Post by ANDY117 » Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:44 pm

I might have to hang out more at my grandmas local MN station! ( Chappaqua)!

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Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:00 pm

ANDY,
Bad news, the cab units really do not operate above Southeast. Basically, I am saying they are not allowed into GCT. On the Harlem, they run on the Southeast-Wassaic shuttle. Even bad news, time is really winding down for cab units in revenue service. I have seen a lot of GEs working on the branches in conn. Also, I rode behind one on a six car consist to Dover Plains. Believe it or not, it was a shuttle.

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Post by Maybrook fan » Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:01 pm

njt/mnrrbuff is right they sometimes use a larger train of 5-6 cars for the upper Harlem Shuffle. But I belive that is more of a convienance for Metro North, than a demand for seats. That happens when they want to maintain the regular equipment, make use of dead head equipment or for crew reasons.

Someone that works there I'm sure could give a better detailed expanation. But the majority of the Shuttle trains are 2 or 3 cars, with what ever flavor the power of the week happens to be.


Now back to the main topic. It was originally posted on here sometime ago that Metro North was going to have Amtrak's locomotives on the property last August and the "F" units would be history. Well it's now Feb. and the only ones coming at this point are Ct. DOT leased units.

I by NO MEAN'S am an authority on this subject. But my opinion is that the "F" units will slowly go out by attrition. I belive they will be scrapped out as they go down due to major break downs or wrecks. The exeption to this is the AC "Starship" conversions. It is my understanding these did not live up to expectations and Metro North is waiting for a loop hole to dump them.

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Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:44 pm

What MN does with that six car shuttle on the Upper harlem is similer to transit on the coastline below LB. In fact, all year round, there are a few diesels that continue to Hob.

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Post by DutchRailnut » Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:14 pm

on Sunday afternoon a six car train is used because later in afternoon That 6 car Bombardier goes south to GCT from Wassaic(18:15)
This gives MofE a chance to give shuttle a look see for service later( that night.
also around 17:20 the train from GCT to wassaic arriving at 19:20 is a big bomb it returns to brewster at 21:03, and after that the mini is used.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Post by nh chris » Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:50 pm

FOR LEASE: 3 FL9's for sale
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So I guess the locos that M-N has recently disposed of either 1) did not get scrapped, or 2) are not really being preserved.

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Post by Otto Vondrak » Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:04 pm

So I guess the locos that M-N has recently disposed of either 1) did not get scrapped, or 2) are not really being preserved.
Let's not start this garbage again. Several are in museums. Several remain active for new owners. Several are probably going to scrap. The future is anyone's guess.

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Post by Otto Vondrak » Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:36 am

Are there any F-unit assignments of note for this weekend (2/19) ?

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Post by Maybrook fan » Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:49 pm

Otto V. the 2 units that were on the upper Harlem are gone :(

I saw a gennie on the 2 car shuffle, I belive it was #217 if my memory is correct.

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Post by Otto Vondrak » Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:09 pm

CDOT 2011 was working on the Danbury Branch today -2/20.

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Post by Otto Vondrak » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:05 pm

CDOT 2027 is currently on the Wassaic Shuttle - 2/23.

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