FL9 F-10 Metro-North / CtDOT / Amtrak Discussion

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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by shadyjay » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:16 pm

I recall a couple of the Amtrak FL-9s were used for work train service towards the end, around the time of the NH-Boston electrification project.

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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by DURR5017116 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:27 pm

Story I last heard with the Amtrak FL9 thing, may or may not be true..... 2 are going to Rensselaer, the remaining 4 will be scrapped. Heard it from a Genesee and Wyoming employee who will supposedly have a part in hauling them

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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by blockline4180 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:27 am

AMTK822401 wrote:Story I last heard with the Amtrak FL9 thing, may or may not be true..... 2 are going to Rensselaer, the remaining 4 will be scrapped. Heard it from a Genesee and Wyoming employee who will supposedly have a part in hauling them
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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by Noel Weaver » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:16 pm

From what I have heard Connecticut will not come to a deal with New York State/Amtrak for the use of six long retired FL-9's that are collecting rust in New Haven. What a waste, no wonder the State of Connecticut is literally broke. OH WELL, It is no skin of my rear end or anybody else's on here for that matter. Connecticut is a loser on this one.
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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by bdawe » Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:23 am

How does the state of Connecticut's potential revenue from renting a few old rust buckets compare to the costs of potential disruption from those rust buckets breaking down in the middle of one of the busiest commuter railroads in North America and impeding travel from Connecticut by rail to and from the nation's largest metropolis?
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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by Noel Weaver » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:10 pm

First off on diesel the FL-9 was a very reliable locomotive, probably as good or better than the stuff running today on CDOT and Amtrak. Second the FL-9's were to be leased to the State of New York and were not slated to run in Connecticut at any time of the lease. Connecticut is literally broke but they kicked themselves in the foot this time around. What's next?, who knows, stay tuned.
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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by bdawe » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:34 am

Is it still going to be a a reliable locomotive if pushed into service today?
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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by blockline4180 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:00 pm

No, only the possible modified (nose hatch?) Amtrak P32AC-DM's, otherwise just MARC cab cars... No MN Genesis engines available to lease, afaik.
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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by R36 Combine Coach » Fri May 04, 2018 3:45 pm

Tadman wrote:With regard to overall safety of the Marc cab cars, South Shore runs them daily at 79mph over hundreds of crossings. With two tragic exceptions - the 1993 bridge crash and the 1998 steel truck crash - they have a very good record. This includes about five miles of street running.
Don't forget the Silver Spring wreck - all 11 fatalities in the cab car.
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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by DutchRailnut » Fri May 04, 2018 4:14 pm

bdawe wrote:Is it still going to be a a reliable locomotive if pushed into service today?
Answer is absolutely no, the last two years of operation they only lasted for average of two days before having FRA issues.

as for silver springs wreck I suggest you read report, the cab car or its design had little to do with casualties .
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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by ConstanceR46 » Sun May 20, 2018 6:12 pm

So is the dream of a FL-9 return dead?

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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by Uncle Cheapo » Sun May 20, 2018 6:33 pm

Dead beyond dead, you wont even see the MARC cars soon, as they are being sent back to the owner shortly.

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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

Post by blockline4180 » Tue May 22, 2018 2:12 pm

Uncle Cheapo wrote:Dead beyond dead, you wont even see the MARC cars soon, as they are being sent back to the owner shortly.
NJT can use more.... Especially with bathrooms.... Besides, the original plan was for 20, instead of the 10 they currently have..
Regardless, seems like Amtrak must have been too stupid not to realize their "stupidity" to modify their engines with a front end nose hatch.
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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North / CtDOT / Amtrak Discussion

Post by dgvrengineer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:45 pm

I see Metro-North has FL9 2012 painted for NYC up for auction. Starting bid $35,000. Get your bids in now!

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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North / CtDOT / Amtrak Discussion

Post by DutchRailnut » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:08 pm

not much left of it , its going to require another $35k for missing parts.
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