FL9 F-10 Metro-North / CtDOT / Amtrak Discussion

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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

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According to the photographer who took the drone shot of the new CDOT "CTrail" GP40-2H, two of the 6 FL-9s were moved indoors. Sounds like final prep work is being done for shipping them out to ALB.

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Tadman wrote:
mtuandrew wrote:What is different safety-wise about the Metroliners versus other cab cars? I’ve seen a few opinions about them being relatively unsafe.
Educated guess: It's the floor plan. Your typical cab car has the engineer sitting in the vestibule, the metroliner has this little cabin in front of the vestibule that is much smaller. I have been told by an Amtrak engineer that it is absolutely tiny. Perhaps it feels harder to escape quickly in event of an accident.
That's an interesting observation. The Metroliner cars did essentially have a fiberglass "extension" mounted to one end where the cab exists - how structurally strong were these? From images, it looks like the steel of the carboy extends under the fiberglass section. Either way, it's essentially a subway-type cab car going near 100 MPH - can't feel terrific for the engineer.

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Lest we forget, there were Grade X-ings between Wilmington and Seabrook on the Corridor when the Metroliner was inaugurated during Jan 1969. Auth Speed was 110 - and there was the Engineer "up there in his little box".

"What, me worry?"

Oh but wait; that was almost fifty years ago, and "things a little bit different today".

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Jeff Smith wrote:Why would the FL9 not be able to lead or trail as an end unit? I'm not sure why you'd need a P32 at all? It seems the P32 is the problem here; no nose door, no egress.
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It was explained in previous post, they no longer have third rail capabilities .
Metro North does not allow revenue trains to run in on diesel , except emergencies.
Amtrak has been planning for this for nearly a year, hardly a emergency in any book.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Thanks, that makes sense now. Not sure why I wasn't getting that. CRS disease? LOL.
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MAS around the few grade crossings in the Corriidor was 80, even for Metroliners. When the BOS-NHV section was upgraded, the remaining grade crossings were equipped with quad gates.

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I haven't read this entire thread, but in another thread viewtopic.php?f=46&t=167162" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Empire Service this summer
AmtrakLocomotiveEngineer wrote:Empire trains will be routed to GCT this year for an entirely different reason than last summer. Last year Empire trains were rerouted to GCT to alleviate congestion in NYP due to track outages during track repairs. This year, Empire service will be returning to GCT due to the Spuyten Duyvil Bridge being replaced.
Did Amtrak really run to Grand Central last year? Why can't they use whatever they used last year?

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last year it was only three inbound and three outbound, which could easily be accommodated on center tracks only.
this year it will be all Empire service (but not Lake Shore Limited) which is not only s**t load more trains but also for a much longer time.
no guarantee to use inside tracks for all those moves .
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Patrick Boylan wrote:Did Amtrak really run to Grand Central last year? Why can't they use whatever they used last year?
Yours truly shot this last year: https://flic.kr/p/XyUFbL
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DutchRailnut wrote:last year it was only three inbound and three outbound, which could easily be accommodated on center tracks only.
this year it will be all Empire service (but not Lake Shore Limited) which is not only s**t load more trains but also for a much longer time.
no guarantee to use inside tracks for all those moves .
Speaking of, I was wondering....does anyone know if there will be any more of the P42-5 Amfleet-P32 sets used this time around........ I do remember those got up to speed REALLY fast last time around.....

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read previous post it explains why not.
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Re: FL9 F-10 Metro-North and Amtrak Discussion

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A little birdie just told me the FL9s have been cleared for movement. But as usual on the RR only believe half of what you see and nothing you hear.

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Obviously this is not in line with the current talk about possible reactivation of the NH FL9s, but does anyone know the exact date the last run of the Fs on the branch lines took place? I had read 2009, but when exactly in 2009 and anyone have photos ?
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Oh and yes, I know I can probably find the answer on this thread, but what page exactly??
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