Open House at Harmon Shops

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Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by Reader#108 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:54 am

Does anyone know if they will have the Open House at the Harmon shops this year?

I saw on wikipedia that it had been cancelled 09 and 10....

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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by DutchRailnut » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:07 pm

They are canceled indefinitly due to budget crisis.
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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by BuddSilverliner269 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:42 am

Holding these open houses takes up alot of time an resources. Its ashame they arent doing it but money is eerything nowadays. Im so glad that I was able to go to 1 back around 99 or so. Ahh the memories :)

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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by Spuyten Duyvil » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:19 pm

Unless I'm wildly underestimating how much it costs to run the open house, not having it for financial reasons is probably penny-wise, pound foolish. It's a great way to generate positive customer relations, both with current and future commuters and the taxpayer at large.

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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by Tadman » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:12 pm

I think the same PR appeal can be achieved by once/year having the newest equipment roped off at a few busy stations. I bet it takes $100k+ of time to clean up and rope off and move equipment at Harmon Shops to prepare for the open house. Also, if you really want to grease some palms, you can take 5-10 elected officials on a tour at any time with 1-2 escort employees. No rope-off or equipment moves necessary. Give 'em a hardhat and walk them through.

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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by DutchRailnut » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:26 pm

Hmm how many railroads have open houses ??? ohh yeahh only MNCR I believe, I don't think MNCR or other railroads need advise on how to handle or fund them.
And no there still won't be a openhouse or show and tell..
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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by truck6018 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:56 pm

Spuyten Duyvil wrote:..... It's a great way to generate positive customer relations, both with current and future commuters and the taxpayer at large.
I doubt your average day to day commuter cares to see something they already see five days a week.

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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by MACTRAXX » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:11 pm

Dutch and Everyone: I understand the MTA budget is tight and I thought of this:
Why not charge a nominal admission fee of perhaps $5 as a way of at least partially paying for this event?

I am thinking $5 for Adults,$2.50 for Children under 12 and $3 for Senior Citizens and an extra charge of no more then $3 for an optional Cold Spring Excursion Ride...

The admission tickets for this could even be included in the MNCR TVMs in the sections used for tours and attractions
and this could be a package ticket with RT rail fare and perhaps a small extra charge for the Cold Spring excursion rides
of maybe a couple of dollars extra be an added option...

This could be a way to keep what I feel is one of the best "Open Houses" by any rail company...MACTRAXX

P.S. EVERYONE: Note the extra text about the admission charge ideas I have added on Saturday 8/13...
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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by RearOfSignal » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:24 pm

truck6018 wrote:
Spuyten Duyvil wrote:..... It's a great way to generate positive customer relations, both with current and future commuters and the taxpayer at large.
I doubt your average day to day commuter cares to see something they already see five days a week.
+1
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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by RearOfSignal » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:27 pm

MACTRAXX wrote:Dutch and Everyone: I understand the MTA budget is tight and I thought of this:
Why not charge a nominal admission fee of perhaps $5 as a way of at least partially paying for this event?

The admission tickets for this could even be included in the MNCR TVMs in the sections used for tours and attractions
and this could be a package ticket with RT rail fare and perhaps a small extra charge for the Cold Spring excursion rides
of maybe a couple of dollars extra be an added option...

This could be a way to keep what I feel is one of the best "Open Houses" by any rail company...MACTRAXX
Maybe the reason people came was because it was free.
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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by Amtrak7 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:44 pm

I don't believe that there should be any fall foliage excursions, it's regular equipment and trackage anyway. That should save a large amount of $$, as the workers are all volunteers (IIRC). The only cost would be shutting the shop down for a day and the shuttle buses.

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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by DutchRailnut » Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:39 am

The cleaning of shop, interuption of work and plaing catch up for a few days woul cost way more than anyone would ever collect.
Its not just volunteers it also includes those people scheduled to work that day, and which can not perform their duties that day.
plus huge amount of extra security by MNPD
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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by metrony » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:23 am

With the times we live in and the MTA being broke for years to come, I doubt there will be any open house anymore..:(

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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by MACTRAXX » Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:57 pm

Everyone: I thought of a price that would be comparable to the MTA Transit Museum and some rail museum venues such as the admission price to RMLI...

I do feel provided the admission price is not too steep that a large percentage of those attending past CRT open houses would still attend especially those in the rail enthusiast community...

I also think if that is what it must take to retain this event it will be well worth Metro-North's while in the form of good public relations for starters...

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Re: Open House at Harmon Shops

Post by RearOfSignal » Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:21 pm

MACTRAXX wrote:I also think if that is what it must take to retain this event it will be well worth Metro-North's while in the form of good public relations for starters...

Thoughts from MACTRAXX
The people who go to the open are not the same who are regular commuters, so how does that help public relations?
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