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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by madcrow » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:34 am

Does anyone know if there are plans to preserve any of the older M-series units? The MTA seems to do a pretty good job with preservation of subway equipment, but AFAIK, it seems that they don't do nearly as well with Metro-North and LIRR stuff...

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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by shadyjay » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:23 pm

madcrow wrote:Does anyone know if there are plans to preserve any of the older M-series units? The MTA seems to do a pretty good job with preservation of subway equipment, but AFAIK, it seems that they don't do nearly as well with Metro-North and LIRR stuff...
I beg to differ, on the MNR aspect... there are numerous FL-9s which were donated to/acquired by museum groups and some operating throughout the region (Naugy in CT and Maine Eastern both operate FL9s). Danbury Rail Museum also got a pair of ACMUs and the old crane from GCT. I'm sure when the time comes that a pair will be saved.

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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by Patrick A. » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:54 pm

There needs to be a farewell to the M2's day, $5 for 5 whacks with a sledge :wink: I'd love to get my hands on a throttle controller or reverser though.
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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by elec tech » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:42 pm

There should be plenty of chances if you know someone in the machanical department.

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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by FL9AC » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:38 pm

There should be plenty of chances if you know someone in the machanical department.
it's Mechanical...and not as many chances as you may think since the units will most likely be bought by a scrapper and shipped out whole or if they're in bad enough shape or can't be moved on their own trucks, they may be scrapped on the spot. I wouldn't recommend it...

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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by elec tech » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:45 pm

If its anything like the m1's, nobody cared what was taken, as long as it was gone.

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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by DutchRailnut » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:22 pm

The cars sold to scrapper are sold after inspection by scrapper, removing any parts would be theft, and would get an employee dismissed on the spot and a outsider arrested.
Several company rules deal with these issues so be warned.
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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by elec tech » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:32 pm

Um, not what we were told. And I quote, "take whatever you may need because we may not ever have it again"

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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by DutchRailnut » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:35 pm

takimg spares for mncr, is quite a difference vs encouraging people to take things privately.
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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by elec tech » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:43 pm

Didn't encourage anyone to steal anything. Your on your own if you take something with the pure intention to either give it away to someone not affiliated with the company or sell it for a profit with the proceedes not going back to the company. That pretty standard issue stuff for any company/business.

But on the other hand, I'm sure each of your cars are outfitted with mnr flashlights. :wink:

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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by Patrick A. » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:53 pm

If MNR is smart, they should do what NYCT with the Redbirds, have some parts (throttle controllers, reversers etc.) be sold to the public as memorabilia, heck it would all be profit.
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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by DutchRailnut » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:24 pm

elec tech wrote:But on the other hand, I'm sure each of your cars are outfitted with mnr flashlights. :wink:
No not in least and am offended by the insinuation, I use LED flashlights bought with my money, I don't even use MNCR batteries
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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by R36 Combine Coach » Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:27 am

Patrick A. wrote:If MNR is smart, they should do what NYCT with the Redbirds, have some parts (throttle controllers, reversers etc.) be sold to the public as memorabilia, heck it would all be profit.
Redbirds have some fan following. Not sure about the M-2s. But a three-seater bench could be a great addition to the living room in front of the TV.
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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by Darien Red Sox » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:32 am

R36 Combine Coach wrote:
Patrick A. wrote:If MNR is smart, they should do what NYCT with the Redbirds, have some parts (throttle controllers, reversers etc.) be sold to the public as memorabilia, heck it would all be profit.
Redbirds have some fan following. Not sure about the M-2s. But a three-seater bench could be a great addition to the living room in front of the TV.
My Mom has all ready warned me that if they start breaking down the old railcars and selling parts she will not allow a train seat in her house :(
Some people complain about the traffic on I95, If you have a problem with traffic and the rails go where you are going, TAKE THE TRAIN!!!

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Re: Two Old MU's @ Stamford

Post by FL9AC » Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:21 pm

My Mom has all ready warned me that if they start breaking down the old railcars and selling parts she will not allow a train seat in her house
who in their right mind would want seats that have had YEARS of vomitting and other such accidents on them with the amount of people riding these cars throughout their career.


Moral of the discussion taking place: Don't take parts whether the cars are going for scrap or obviously if they're still in service/owned by the R.R.

"Elec Tech" statements like that won't make you too many friends. Maybe you have a few things at your house from work, but don't start joking around or accusing others of it, especially on a public forum monitored and even replied to occasionally by company officials. Some things are better left un-said...

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