Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

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Post by Clean Cab » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:00 am

I see that MN mechanics are indeed stripping M6 #9028 for any salvagable parts. So it is now certain that M6 9028 wil join M2s 8535, 8711 and 8808 in that great train yard in the sky.
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Post by RearOfSignal » Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:33 pm

capecodlocoguy wrote:I can't believe that MN would scrap an M6!!
I heard that MNR wants to phase out the triplets once the M-8s arrive to streamline operations like having to lowering one pan on a pair not both pans on a triplet and also the locations of thru switches on the triplets cause some confusion.

Don't kill the messenger, just what a couple of guys have told me. Don't know if it's true.
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Post by Clean Cab » Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:30 pm

I've asked a few people who are involved with both the M8 project and the Mechanical Dept. As of now, no decision has been made as to what to do with the triplets. The M4s are tentatively scheduled for their version of the CSR program in 2010. But some are asking how much money do you want to spend on rebuliding cars that will not be compatible with the M8s and eventually M10s?

Time will tell.
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Post by DutchRailnut » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:14 am

A outside contractor started to strip the cars of underbody parts including truck mountings etc , so they can be loaded onto flatcars.
the first 3 flatcars are brought in.
about 20 unrepairable cars are being hauled out in total.
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Post by L'mont » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:39 am

I thought the brake set-up allowed them to be pulled on their own wheels?

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Post by FL9AC » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:28 pm

yes, but I'm sure most of the cars would need a complete air valve inspection and rebuild for any other railroads to allow them to be interchanged. It would be more work and money to get the cars readied in that sense than it would be to get them on flatcars instead. I'm sure some of the cars are also not in the best condition carbody/frame-wise.

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Post by DutchRailnut » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:02 pm

Today at least 2 cars were loaded on flatcars, and possbly a third.
after securing the cars expect them to move by thursday or so.
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Post by BERK44 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:04 pm

On Sunday I noticed a crew cutting up one of the cars at the Stamford yard and loading it into a dumpster. Scrap prices have been doing well lately. This is a good time to do this.

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Post by DutchRailnut » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:14 am

The cars are stripped in Stamford yard, not cut up.
They take of all underbody equipment and the hump so car will fit under wire while on a flatcar.
The cars pretty much look like M1's with red stripe when crew is done with them.
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Post by Clean Cab » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:15 am

The M6 (#9028) will not be scrapped after all. It is scheduled to be repaired by the Stamford Heavy Repair Shop within the next few weeks. I just couldn't believe that such a new car with so little damage was going to be scrapped.
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Post by BERK44 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:42 am

DutchRailnut wrote:The cars are stripped in Stamford yard, not cut up.
They take of all underbody equipment and the hump so car will fit under wire while on a flatcar.
The cars pretty much look like M1's with red stripe when crew is done with them.
Thanks for the clarfication. The hump was the part they were removing.

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Post by SubaruWRX » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:09 pm

Ah so thats why those cars are over at the Stamford yard.. I was wondering why one of the trainsets was disconnected from the other.
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Post by FL9AC » Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:16 pm

even the regular shopped equipment is often split apart to facilitate the different repairs and inspection processes there. It's very common to see single cars sitting on the shop tracks.

I'm surprised to hear that the 9028 is going to be repaired, as quite a bit of parts have been taken off already that I saw at least. Front coupler is taken off along with the electric coupler, the interior has a ton of stuff missing, and the cab has been pretty well stripped.

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Post by Clean Cab » Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:36 pm

That is what always happens to cars that sit around too long. They are always picked clean for any usable parts. Getting it back on the road will take a bit longer now because now the guys in the Heavy Repair Shop have to "obtain" all the missing parts, and fix all the damage!!!
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Post by DutchRailnut » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:19 am

3 cars loaded and ready to be shipped, 3 more wrecks arriving from New Haven this weekend to be loaded on flats next week.
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