Was there ever overnight service?

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Re: Was there ever overnight service?

Post by Clean Cab » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:35 am

DutchRailnut wrote:in short answer is " MNCR never had overnight service.
Well, that's not quite true. MN does run overnight trains on New Year's Eve every year.
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Re: Was there ever overnight service?

Post by DutchRailnut » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:44 am

picky picky picky, extra service we can find any exception to any rule.
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Re: Was there ever overnight service?

Post by Clean Cab » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:19 am

Gotcha!!! :)
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Re: Was there ever overnight service?

Post by R36 Combine Coach » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:35 am

Why does MNCR have to publish a seperate New Year's Eve timetable each year while LIRR has the added trains in the current regular timetable?
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Re: Was there ever overnight service?

Post by DutchRailnut » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:46 am

hmm cause we are not the LIRR ???
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Re: Was there ever overnight service?

Post by Tommy Meehan » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:32 pm

The closing of GCT from 1:30AM to 5:00AM, that might've been a Metro-North initiative. The decision was reported on TV and in the papers, an ERA ENDS IN NEW YORK type story.

They said it was twofold) 1 - to facilitate cleaning and 2 - to give the MTA legal grounds for moving homeless people out of the terminal once a day.

However the entrance on 42nd Street, a bit east of Park Avenue, remained open to allow access to the subway. Entrance beyond into the terminal itself was blocked off. I mention this because I used that subway entrance several nights and was astounded to see there were literally dozens of people sleeping on the floor with the permission (at least tacit) of the police. When I saw it they seemed to be mostly young people, not the homeless types you would expect, at least not all.

A guy who used to work the overnight at GCT told me that around 3 AM some church group that ministered to the homeless would arrive in a van with sandwiches and sodas.

This was actually around 1990, Metro-North time.

These days I'm home in bed at that hour so have no idea whether it still takes place. :)

I doubt it though.

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Re: Was there ever overnight service?

Post by Train322 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:54 pm

We also forget, MTA is trying to save $'s.

They had proposed combining the 1am trains. Why can't they do that Sun night-Thurs night when, according to the MTA proposal, ridership was lower.


I thought the M8's were part of the Penn station access. Can Penn station accomodate more late night trains? I can see rush hour being too crowded but weekends and late night?

Perhaps close GCT at 1am or even earlier to save $'s? At least until east side access is finished.

On the New Haven, only Mt Vernon (east) and Pelham would be missed. On the Hudson, if they had the equipment, only Spuyten Duyvil-Yankee would be missed (not sure about the switches for Riverdale).

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Re: Was there ever overnight service?

Post by Otto Vondrak » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:53 am

My Harlem Division schedule effective October 1, 1967 says Night Owl Service is an experiment that runs through Feb 4, 1968. Apparently this was only a Harlem Division experiment, no such service indicated in the Hudson Division timetable of the same issue.

As Dutch pointed out, Metro-North never ran an overnight service, nor do they have plans to start one.
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Re: Was there ever overnight service?

Post by Ridgefielder » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:04 pm

Train322 wrote:From the Oct 64 schedule
Sun only local in lieu of the 3am to Stamford (The Night Cap) ran at 3:25am.
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