Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by FL9AC » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:56 pm

I'm sure if they can run diesels they can and they are! There's only one mini bomb and one maxi in the yard in Danbury right now...the rest of the maxi's were taken for mainline service but there is limited service as of now on all three lines.

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by Kilgore Trout » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:21 pm

Tommy Meehan wrote:I think the problem with this storm is it really was a blizzard. The US Weather Bureau defines a blizzard as heavy snowfall (check), strong gusting winds (check) and sub-freezing temperatures (check).

IMHO it was the wind that makes this storm so tough. Anything you shoveled last night was buried again in a couple hours.
Yep, and we got lucky because the snow is so light. At least once the wind died down the actual removal process was easy.
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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by Otto Vondrak » Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:08 pm

shadyjay wrote:Is it all diesel service on the New Haven Line or are the M-2s in action? Wondering how the M-2s are doing with the snow, post-CSR.
I just saw a set of M-2's fly through here in Harrison, so they must be repositioning them for tomorrow. All regular service has been the hourly diesel maxi-bom trains.

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by Amtrak7 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:03 pm

All MNR stations have service now, albeit local hourly service.

What are they using on the New Canaan?

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by Darien Red Sox » Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:55 pm

Metro North just sent out an Alert that they will be running a Saturday schedule tomorrow Tuesday Dec. 28th
Some people complain about the traffic on I95, If you have a problem with traffic and the rails go where you are going, TAKE THE TRAIN!!!

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by Train2009 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:47 pm

What is the equipment for tomorrow?

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by DutchRailnut » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:51 pm

other than Railfans no one really cares, passengers only care if a train comes not what kind.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by CNJ » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:16 pm

Here is the snow tally for the Tri-State area:

CONNECTICUT

...FAIRFIELD COUNTY...
WILTON 18.0 830 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
GREENWICH 17.0 700 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
NORWALK 16.0 910 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
DANBURY 14.1 800 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER
BRIDGEPORT 12.0 900 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER
NEW CANAAN 11.0 830 PM 12/26 PUBLIC
COS COB 10.0 1100 PM 12/26 PUBLIC
STAMFORD 10.0 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

...NEW HAVEN COUNTY...
SOUTHBURY 11.0 950 PM 12/26 PUBLIC

...NEW LONDON COUNTY...
GALES FERRY 7.5 913 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 WNW OAKDALE 7.5 700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS
LISBON 7.0 1049 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
NORWICH 6.0 800 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER
LEDYARD CENTER 5.0 730 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

NEW JERSEY

...BERGEN COUNTY...
LYNDHURST 29.0 230 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
LODI 27.1 700 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
RUTHERFORD 23.0 800 AM 12/27 NJ DEPT OF HIGHWAYS
OAKLAND 22.0 730 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
GARFIELD 21.8 331 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 W TENAFLY 20.0 700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS
MAHWAH 17.5 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
RIDGEWOOD 17.5 622 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
PARAMUS 17.0 800 AM 12/27 NJ DEPT OF HIGHWAYS
NORTH ARLINGTON 16.3 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
SADDLE BROOK 15.5 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
RAMSEY 15.0 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP 14.5 1010 PM 12/26 PUBLIC
TENAFLY 11.6 1100 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
CRESSKILL 11.5 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
HASBROUCK HEIGHTS 11.4 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
TEANECK 10.8 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
RIVER EDGE 10.5 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
ORADELL 10.2 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

...ESSEX COUNTY...
NEWARK AIRPORT 24.2 700 AM 12/27 ASOS
VERONA 23.0 500 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
MILLBURN 22.5 800 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
CEDAR GROVE 21.1 700 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
BELLEVILLE 19.4 1130 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
WEST ORANGE 17.0 1200 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

...HUDSON COUNTY...
SECAUCUS 25.0 800 AM 12/27 NJ DEPT OF HIGHWAYS
HARRISON 25.0 800 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER
JERSEY CITY 23.0 800 AM 12/27 NJ DEPT OF HIGHWAYS
HOBOKEN 19.9 800 AM 12/27 SKYWARN SPOTTER

...PASSAIC COUNTY...
CLIFTON 25.0 800 AM 12/27 NJ DEPT OF HIGHWAYS
HASKELL 24.5 200 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
WAYNE 22.0 915 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
RINGWOOD 22.0 810 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
WEST MILFORD 22.0 415 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

...UNION COUNTY...
ELIZABETH 31.8 700 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
ROSELLE 28.7 710 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
UNION 27.0 745 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
CLARK 27.0 745 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
FANWOOD 26.0 100 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

NEW YORK

...BRONX COUNTY...
SOUNDVIEW PARK HOMES 22.5 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
BEDFORD PARK 22.0 600 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
PARKCHESTER 15.7 840 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

...KINGS (BROOKLYN) COUNTY...
SHEEPSHEAD BAY 24.0 700 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
BROOKLYN 17.5 130 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

...NASSAU COUNTY...
OLD BETHPAGE 20.5 907 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
CARLE PLACE 18.1 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
LONG BEACH 16.0 245 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
BALDWIN HARBOR 16.0 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
SEAFORD 15.5 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
NEW HYDE PARK 14.2 1155 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
FARMINGDALE 14.0 1202 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
OCEANSIDE 13.0 900 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
WEST HEMPSTEAD 12.5 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
ROCKVILLE CENTRE 11.0 1100 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
GARDEN CITY 11.0 830 PM 12/26 PUBLIC
BELLMORE 10.0 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

...NEW YORK COUNTY...
CENTRAL PARK 20.0 700 AM 12/27 ASOS
MANHATTAN 10.0 1020 PM 12/26 SPOTTER-WEST SIDE

...ORANGE COUNTY...
TUXEDO PARK 26.0 255 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
HARRIMAN 26.0 630 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
MONROE 24.0 900 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
NEW WINDSOR 17.5 745 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
NEWBURGH 16.5 900 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
MONTGOMERY 15.0 100 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
MIDDLETOWN 11.0 100 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

...PUTNAM COUNTY...
4 ESE BEACON 15.0 700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS
8 NE COLD SPRINGS 13.8 700 AM 12/27 COCORAHS
COLD SPRING 13.0 1040 PM 12/26 PUBLIC
PUTNAM VALLEY 13.0 1010 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
LAKE CARMEL 11.5 1123 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

...QUEENS COUNTY...
ASTORIA 16.1 801 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
NYC/JFK AIRPORT 15.5 700 AM 12/27 ASOS
FRESH MEADOWS 14.2 1225 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
WOODSIDE 14.0 645 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
HOWARD BEACH 14.0 1200 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
NYC/LA GUARDIA 14.0 700 AM 12/27 ASOS

...RICHMOND COUNTY...
GREAT KILLS 29.0 900 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
ELTINGVILLE 22.0 800 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
STATEN ISLAND 17.8 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

...ROCKLAND COUNTY...
TALLMAN 10.0 1025 PM 12/26 PUBLIC
VALLEY COTTAGE 7.0 730 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

...SUFFOLK COUNTY...
NORTH BABYLON 18.5 845 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
UPTON 17.6 700 AM 12/27 NWS OFFICE
CENTEREACH 17.0 930 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
CENTERPORT 15.0 650 AM 12/27 COOP-OBSERVER
EAST SETAUKET 15.0 715 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
1 WNW EAST MORICHES 14.1 745 AM 12/27 COCORAHS
SHOREHAM 14.0 900 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
EAST NORTHPORT 13.9 700 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
ISLIP AIRPORT 13.7 700 AM 12/27 ASOS
MOUNT SINAI 12.1 700 AM 12/27 NWS EMPLOYEE
HOLBROOK 11.5 430 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
PORT JEFFERSON 11.0 800 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
ORIENT 10.0 1230 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
FLANDERS 10.0 620 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

...WESTCHESTER COUNTY...
YONKERS 19.5 800 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER
MOUNT VERNON 17.0 1115 PM 12/26 BROADCAST MEDIA
BRONXVILLE 17.0 1140 PM 12/26 PUBLIC
EASTCHESTER 14.5 1037 PM 12/26 PUBLIC
PORT CHESTER 14.0 1015 PM 12/26 PUBLIC
BRIARCLIFF MANOR 13.1 810 AM 12/27 PUBLIC
2 NW SOUTH SALEM 13.0 800 AM 12/27 COCORAHS
DOBBS FERRY 12.0 1100 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
SCARSDALE 11.5 1115 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER
WHITE PLAINS 11.0 1030 PM 12/26 WHITE PLAINS HS
HASTINGS-ON-HUDSON 11.0 1100 PM 12/26 PUBLIC
LARCHMONT 11.0 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by Tommy Meehan » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:44 pm

I rode the Hudson Line from Yonkers to Tarrytown around 10 o'clock tonight. It was a Bomb train running on the local schedule (but extended to Poughkeepsie).

It was five minutes late at Yonkers and ten minutes late at Tarrytown. So the diesels can't quite match the MU time but they're close.

I was lucky. There was a two-hour gap in service because of equipment breakdown but it was the train before mine. I think I saw one of the GP35Ms towing it north on Tk 3. And it was dead. Even the markers were dark.

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by theozno » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:04 am

I was at work all day so how do they get the Danbury diesels out this morning and when did they?
I assume one of the reasons for a Saturday schedule is the Danbury and Wassaic bombers are in use at the moment. when do you suppose that they will come back to danbury? some point tomorrow?
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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by Steamboat Willie » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:27 am

Any equipment that the RR needed was ushered by Danbury crews who normally work today, but since it is running on a limited schedule, most were working as directed by supervision. Speaking for the NHV and Harlem, they ran bombs from NY to NWP and Stamford, and switching for electrics. It was interesting seeing how this place handled some of the hurdles it had to over come. Mind you, even though X amount of inches of snow fell, with the impressive winds huge snow drifts were formed all over.

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by Clean Cab » Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:19 am

I must praise MN for how they handled this nasty storm. As soon as problems developed, they suspened service and did not repeat the mistakes of 1996 by allowing trains to keep operating, breaking down and getting stuck and trapping passengers for many hours in cold dark cars.
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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by Darien Red Sox » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:11 am

It seems to be right now things are a mess with overcrowding and poor/late announcements. Got to Noroton Heights to take the 7:46, there were still passengers who were trying to catch the canceled 6:46 waiting. Two trains expressed through the station and then an announcement was made that a Shore Line East train would be making a stop. Shore Line East train expresses through the station and about 10min later an announcement is made that a train will be stopping there in 10 to 15 min. Train stops but is all ready packed and very few people are able to get on. The roads/sidewalks hear in Stamford seem to be very bad with the need to climb over big piles of snow at some intersections to cross the street.
Some people complain about the traffic on I95, If you have a problem with traffic and the rails go where you are going, TAKE THE TRAIN!!!

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by fordhamroad » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:45 am

-when the situation settles down, would be interested in an overall description of how the Shore Line East functioned in the blizzard. It is an all diesel line, compared to the mix on Metro North. Thanks to all the railroad employees for their efforts in fighting Mother Nature.

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Re: Sunday Night Blizzard - 12/26

Post by RearOfSignal » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:58 am

By the time I got to the terminal all service was suspended, but trains that had already departed their initial terminals were continuing to their destinations. However, no new trains were heading out. Service was restored around 12:00 pm. Hourly local service on each line, with bomb trains. Trains going up the New Haven line were going to Stamford with bomb equipment and changing to electrics for service east to New Haven. The reverse for trains heading west to GCT. A few tracks were OOS, tk 4 at CP 234 and Ttk 4 between CP 112 and 106, due to third rail covers coming off. The snow jets were out in force clearing out the snow drifts that in some places were a foot over the top of the third rail on the Hudson line. Had the pleasure of working with Steamboat Willie on one train. The trains coming back west on the New Haven were SRO. Of course with bomb trains making all local stops and the heavy crowding and waiting for connections most trains were at least 20 mins behind schedule.
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