Danbury Branch Extension Study

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Re: Danbury Branch Extension Study

Post by DutchRailnut » Mon May 14, 2018 6:30 pm

They own what they got , for cDOT to now claim ownership would be nothing short of Marxism.
CDOT had chance to own Danbury cluster but found it not in their interest , so it pretty much puts them outside the loop.
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Re: Danbury Branch Extension Study

Post by andrewjw » Tue May 15, 2018 1:04 am

You know Kelo v. New London was right here in this state, right?

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Re: Danbury Branch Extension Study

Post by DutchRailnut » Tue May 15, 2018 7:50 am

yes but you can't use eminent domain after state and CDOT declined to buy the property at Conrail sale , it was offered to them at about 1/10 of price it would fetch now.
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Re: Danbury Branch Extension Study

Post by andrewjw » Tue May 15, 2018 2:22 pm

Explain to me again why you can't use eminent domain?

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Re: Danbury Branch Extension Study

Post by DutchRailnut » Tue May 15, 2018 3:43 pm

state would loose in court cause they refused the same property only a few years ago. guaranteed.
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Re: Danbury Branch Extension Study

Post by andrewjw » Tue May 15, 2018 6:24 pm

Is there precedent which supports your claim that they would lose?

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Re: Danbury Branch Extension Study

Post by Ridgefielder » Thu May 17, 2018 11:27 am

DutchRailnut wrote:state would loose in court cause they refused the same property only a few years ago. guaranteed.
I'm not too sure about that. Conrail sold the Danbury cluster in 1992. That's closer to a few decades than a few years in the past. And the physical plant has been allowed to decay to an alarming degree.

Bigger problem is prob. that the State of Conn. is flat broke and has no money to spend on this, whether through forced sale or not. It's more likely in my opinion that the Housy goes bust and P&W swoops in with Genesee & Wyoming's checkbook and buys the whole thing.

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Re: Danbury Branch Extension Study

Post by Jeff Smith » Thu May 17, 2018 11:33 am

I think certainly, HRRC, outside of the one transload facility, would do well to be rid of the Maybrook. No customers west, and to the east they can negotiate within the sale, i.e. forecast future revenue, or get (ironically) trackage rights to the east, etc.
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Re: Danbury Branch Extension Study

Post by Backshophoss » Thu May 17, 2018 9:46 pm

Good time for HRRC to sell off to P&W(G&W),settle out of court and retreat to north of New Milford town line.
OR have P&W file for adverse abandonment to force the HRRC out of Danbury.
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Re: Danbury Branch Extension Study

Post by BandA » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:55 pm

You want the state to NOT have a study, and say they don't really want it, but are willing to buy it for pennies on the dollar just to get it off their hands. THEN do the study.

It's not that HRRC is passenger unfriendly, rather they are derailment-friendly!

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