ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

Moderators: GirlOnTheTrain, nomis, FL9AC, Jeff Smith

The Interloafer
Posts: 172
Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:48 pm
Location: The Bronx

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by The Interloafer »

Interesting points. The LIRR has served Shea/CitiField for decades, so there must be time-honored ways of handling this. (Not to mention other regional rail lines as well. MBTA Commuter Rail serves Fenway; MARC serves the Orioles at Camden Yards; Metrolink serves Angel Stadium in Anaheim. Sounder's downtown Seattle station may deal with crowds leaving Mariners games at nearby Safeco Field.)

I'm going to go over to the LIRR forum and start a thread asking how they handle extra-inning games.

Update: Here's that thread.
"Might as well travel the elegant way."

Erie-Lackawanna
Posts: 1132
Joined: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:34 pm
Location: Where the Tropics Begin, FL

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by Erie-Lackawanna »

First, let's make one thing clear: only regular Hudson Line service to the new station will be shown in the regular timetables. Hudson, Harlem & New Haven Line special trains will be shown in the new Yankees Home Game Service timetable, which will be the complete picture of all game service, just as the Long Island Rail Road's Mets service is shown in a special timetable.

As far as rainouts, game delays, extra innings: we'll handle it. Nobody will be left stranded if they want to stay to the end of an extra innings game. They won't be waiting at the station for a train if the game is called after the second inning. The LIRR has been doing this for a long time, and we're using their experience as our guide.

Jim

User avatar
shadyjay
Posts: 2100
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:08 pm
Location: Conn River Valley

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by shadyjay »

On Wednesday, I did a GCT-Croton/Harmon roundtrip. On the SB trip as we left Morris Heights, the electronic display in the M-7s displayed "Yankee-E 153 St" as the next stop, and the audible announcement said "Talmadge Hill" which is on the New Canaan Branch. As we entered the station, the regular arrival station announcement played with the same description as the pre-arrival.

User avatar
Tommy Meehan
Posts: 3345
Joined: Tue May 11, 2004 7:00 am
Location: Yonkers

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by Tommy Meehan »

Erie-Lackawanna wrote:As far as rainouts, game delays, extra innings: we'll handle it. Nobody will be left stranded...The LIRR has been doing this for a long time, and we're using their experience as our guide. Jim
Excellent answer, thanks.

User avatar
Otto Vondrak
Posts: 20285
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2004 6:47 pm
Location: New York

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by Otto Vondrak »

Erie-Lackawanna wrote:As far as rainouts, game delays, extra innings: we'll handle it. Nobody will be left stranded if they want to stay to the end of an extra innings game. They won't be waiting at the station for a train if the game is called after the second inning.
Yeah, what do youse guys think dis is, BOSTON??!!

-otto-
----------------------------------------------
Moderator: New York State Railfan :: New York Central :: Toy Trains
NYW&B Fan Site :: A Magazine I Read Often :: A Museum I Volunteer At

User avatar
Tommy Meehan
Posts: 3345
Joined: Tue May 11, 2004 7:00 am
Location: Yonkers

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by Tommy Meehan »

Otto Vondrak wrote: Yeah, what do youse guys think dis is, BOSTON??!!
-otto-
The only one I know of is Camden Yards -- is this off-topic? -- where MARC baseball specials leave on schedule, whether the game is over or not.

RearOfSignal
Posts: 2557
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:31 pm

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by RearOfSignal »

Does MARC even run on weekends?
Hurry up and wait at the signal!

User avatar
Tommy Meehan
Posts: 3345
Joined: Tue May 11, 2004 7:00 am
Location: Yonkers

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by Tommy Meehan »

They used to run occasional weekday night specials from Washington to Camden Yards for Orioles games. I don't think they run them anymore.

There was a big stink a few years ago when the return train left before the game was over. I think it was because of a crew/HOS issue.

That's the thing with Metro-North. Not many other commuter roads have the resources Metro-North does. The amount of equipment, the crews available or that can be made available. We're actually very lucky.

RearOfSignal
Posts: 2557
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:31 pm

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by RearOfSignal »

Tommy Meehan wrote:the crews available or that can be made available.
Crews can't be made available. They're either available or not. Even if they're available they have to want to work if it's a their rest day. There are quite a few regular jobs that are vacant now. So I'm interested to see how they're going to cover the Yankee Stadium service not only for the trains themselves but also for the gating. Equipment and crews are not an endless resource. MNR may have more than some other railroads but there is a limit.
Hurry up and wait at the signal!

User avatar
Tommy Meehan
Posts: 3345
Joined: Tue May 11, 2004 7:00 am
Location: Yonkers

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by Tommy Meehan »

No one has mentioned it but the most recent Mileposts has some information on the new service.

Hudson Line riders will use regularly scheduled trains. Harlem and New Haven riders can use special direct service that will operate "on weeknights, weekends and holidays." Harlem and NH riders will also be able to buy special "Via" tickets that allow transfers to Stadium specials (or Hudson Line trains I guess) at 125th/GCT without paying two full fares.

The latter relates to something I've been wondering about. Fares. Will Yankees-153rd St be in the Bronx fare zone, a special fare zone or the 125th/GCT fare zone? We'll know soon enough, tickets go on sale starting May 1st.

RearOfSignal
Posts: 2557
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:31 pm

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by RearOfSignal »

The "Mileposts" newsletter you quoted gives a fully detailed explanation. As does http://mta.info/mnr/html/yankeestadium.htm. Fares and all.
Hurry up and wait at the signal!

truck6018
Posts: 968
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:31 pm

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by truck6018 »

Tommy Meehan wrote: The latter relates to something I've been wondering about. Fares. Will Yankees-153rd St be in the Bronx fare zone, a special fare zone or the 125th/GCT fare zone? We'll know soon enough, tickets go on sale starting May 1st.
It will be a Bronx fare zone.
RearOfSignal wrote:So I'm interested to see how they're going to cover the Yankee Stadium service not only for the trains themselves but also for the gating.
As far station crews (ticket agents/custodians) there were rumors circulating (that I can not confirm or deny) that MNR were looking to outsource these positions. If not, with the anticipated ticket window closures at other stations and the posting of custodial jobs (meaning crews being shuffled around), it will likely work out.

RearOfSignal
Posts: 2557
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:31 pm

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by RearOfSignal »

truck6018 wrote:
Tommy Meehan wrote: The latter relates to something I've been wondering about. Fares. Will Yankees-153rd St be in the Bronx fare zone, a special fare zone or the 125th/GCT fare zone? We'll know soon enough, tickets go on sale starting May 1st.
It will be a Bronx fare zone.
It will not be a regular Bronx fare zone! Only for Hudson line trains will the Bronx fare apply(fare zone 2). A intermediate Harlem line monthly (zone 2 to anywhere else besides GCT/125th) will not cover the fare to Yankees - E. 153 St during certain times; namely on non-direct trains which require a transfer in Manhattan.
MTA Metro North Railroad's Website wrote: At other times, Harlem and New Haven Line customers will be able to transfer to Hudson Line trains, or special game-day shuttles, at Grand Central or Harlem-125th Street Station, using our new "Via" fares, which are slightly higher than fares to Grand Central.

And getting to and from the game is a one-ticket ride from our Hudson, Harlem, and New Haven lines.

Monthly and weekly ticket holders who normally travel to or from Manhattan (on any of the three lines) can travel to or from Yankees-E. 153rd Street Station at no extra charge.
Hurry up and wait at the signal!

The Interloafer
Posts: 172
Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:48 pm
Location: The Bronx

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by The Interloafer »

It's in the Bronx fare zone for Hudson Line trains. For travel on Harlem & New Haven trains there is a step-up charge called a "via" fare to account for a transfer at 125th or using the Mott Haven wye.

I went by the station today to take a gander at the new pedestrian overpass which has been open since 4/3. This station is monumental. It is enormous, sturdy, and looks like it will last for many decades. Here's a photo of the wide concrete walkway.

Image

Here's a photo of the station mezzanine.

Image

I was surprised to find that Track 1 was . . . gone!

Image

In its place was a MOW vehicle that looked like it was grading the right-of-way. I would bet this work was being done to minimize the gap.

Image

Finally, the stairway on the west side of the station has a nice landing that provides unobstructed views of the right of way and the station. I like to call this "the railfan's platform."

Image
"Might as well travel the elegant way."

User avatar
Tommy Meehan
Posts: 3345
Joined: Tue May 11, 2004 7:00 am
Location: Yonkers

Re: ARTICLE: Yankee stadium station gets Metro-North nod

Post by Tommy Meehan »

The Interloafer wrote:It's in the Bronx fare zone for Hudson Line trains.
I had already read the Milepost and the Web site information, do they say what fare zone the stadium will be in? (I just looked again.)

You're saying it will be the same fare as from, say Yonkers as to Marble Hill? That would be great. Beyond great (given the prices at the new ballpark).

Great pix by the way.

Return to “MTA Metro-North Railroad and CtDOT Passenger Rail”