PTC installation problem

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PTC installation problem

Post by John_Perkowski » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:49 pm

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Re: PTC installation problem

Post by Backshophoss » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:54 am

This includes all wayside gear along with the onboard gear,recalled or outdated BBD should pay the fines for this foul up!
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Re: PTC installation problem

Post by RearOfSignal » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:15 am

This would be devastating if they have to recall all the on-board and wayside equipment.
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Re: PTC installation problem

Post by DutchRailnut » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:23 am

my understanding is it is just the antenna's , not that they are defective but , not tested right.
they used a single employee on a testing/validator that had not been certified since early 2016.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: PTC installation problem

Post by freightguy » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:51 pm

Alright wonder if we have to send 400 cars back to Arch St in Long Island City to Bombardier for a retrofit?
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Re: PTC installation problem

Post by DutchRailnut » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:12 pm

not really, removing the under car antenna and switching it with a correct tested antenna can be done in any shop and probably a lot of cars per shift .
think major setback is getting proper tested antennas and cost.
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Re: PTC installation problem

Post by kitn1mcc » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:24 pm

Wonder what could be the issue. wonder if someone ordered the wrong band
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Re: PTC installation problem

Post by DutchRailnut » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:30 pm

If you bother to read article , issue being testing /verifying device not certified since 2016 and only one employee doing testing, no verifications .
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Re: PTC installation problem

Post by ExCon90 » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:23 pm

The hell of it is that after they're all retested it may turn out they were all OK in the first place, but there was no way of knowing without retesting every one of them.

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Re: PTC installation problem

Post by DutchRailnut » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:12 pm

all Signal equipment, be it Cab signal, ATC or ACSES is pre tested and certified. problem is if you test on a machine that may or may not be within specifications it makes certification worthless.
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