M8's and Shore Line East

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Re: M8's and Shore Line East

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJCdin6_nTE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Source: Unofficial MNRR Facebook group from one of our shared members. Out past the Division Post to Mill River where testing was done. Very limited scope.
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Re: M8's and Shore Line East

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Facebook has made that vid unavaible. :( :( :(
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Re: M8's and Shore Line East

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It was there just now.

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Re: M8's and Shore Line East

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nice video. but going to mill river at night is dicey
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Re: M8's and Shore Line East

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The test train operated (under its own power) from Mill River to Shore Line Jct. and return.
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Re: M8's and Shore Line East

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at restricted speed and its not even a mile and half ;-)
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Re: M8's and Shore Line East

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Did it go through the phase break
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Re: M8's and Shore Line East

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it was pushed trough voltage change with locomotive, with pantograph down.
same when it was done, it was pulled back to shop with diesel.

ps a phase break is not same, as what is break between two power systems.
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Re: M8's and Shore Line East

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DutchRailnut wrote:it was pushed trough voltage change with locomotive, with pantograph down.
same when it was done, it was pulled back to shop with diesel.

ps a phase break is not same, as what is break between two power systems.
Was it a signal system test then?

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Re: M8's and Shore Line East

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no just to see if it could run on 25kv and to do power measurements. there still will be a lot of testing ahead before they are cleared by Amtrak.
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Re: SLE/CtDOT VRE Virginia Railway Express Mafersa Coaches

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Yes. M8's on SLE are specifically free up that fleet for reassignment. It's buried somewhere in the NHHS documentation and CT State Rail Plan. Even if that EMU transition is incomplete by 2017 the car requirements of the present SLE schedule are quite a bit less than the total size of the 33-car Mafersa fleet so they've got some slack to play with. It'd be *very* tight margins for spreading the Mafersas around both all-SLE and all-NHHS at the same time, and may require borrowing a few Shoreliners the days they're short...but until Armory layover in Springfield gets built the starter Hartford Line schedules are meager enough that they should be able to gingerly juggle both services on that fleet. Though would be a lot easier if M8 rollout were underway on at least a decent-size partial chunk of the Old Saybrook SLE schedules so they can start pulling off a portion of the Mafersas.


Locos are less of a concern with the 4 NJT P40DC's en route. I'm not even sure what the schedule is for the GP40-2H rebuild; it's been a moving target for a few years now. I suppose if CDOT wanted to hit up Amtrak for a few of its stored P40's they can cancel the Geep rebuild outright, sell them off where the leaser market or de-HEP conversion to work engines would fetch good aftermarket interest, put the rebuild money into their legacy P40's instead, and go forward with a more simplified uniform fleet. Most of Amtrak's stored units are in full operating condition and would just need the same light upgrades the NJT units and 15 return-to-service AMTK units got when they were plucked from that same storage pool. The first Siemens Charger option orders have already been picked up by the states, so Amtrak won't have any further need for keeping those 13 stored units on long-term contingency.

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Re: SLE/CtDOT VRE Virginia Railway Express Mafersa Coaches

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I was told fairly recently the substations on the Shoreline do not support more than four car consists (two pairs.) Unless they're in a rush to implement M8's into service to free up the diesel fleet, do not count on thru service into New York. Even running thru service to Stamford is a stretch with a four car M8 consist with limited seating availability.

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Re: SLE/CtDOT VRE Virginia Railway Express Mafersa Coaches

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If those sub stations can safely support two ACS-64 (8600 hp each) on one train and possibly one on other track ???
the Horsepower equivalent would be around 21 M-8's at 1050 HP a car, so that story should be hogwash.
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Re: SLE/CtDOT VRE Virginia Railway Express Mafersa Coaches

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Amtrak is trying to make up any excuse they can. they are concerned about regenative breaking messing up there sub stations. and they are concerned about the pans not dropping at sub stations and other stuff,.
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Re: SLE/CtDOT VRE Virginia Railway Express Mafersa Coaches

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DRN, this is what a transportation official on the NH side told me recently and has a reputation of being fairly accurate.

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