West of Hudson Fleet Status

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Graeme Salt
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West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by Graeme Salt » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:05 am

A recent UK visitor to the NYC area reports seeing very little of the WOH locomotive fleet active at Hoboken over the course of several days - specifically, only 4906 was sighted, and that didn't turn a wheel. By contrast my own visit in February 2018 yielded all of them except F40 4913 working. Are there a number of WOH locos still oos for PTC installation? Would it be possible for someone to post a fleet status update?

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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by nomis » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:49 pm

Mod Note: For better visibility, I moved this to the NJT forum.
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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by CNJGeep » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:01 pm

Graeme Salt wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:05 am
A recent UK visitor to the NYC area reports seeing very little of the WOH locomotive fleet active at Hoboken over the course of several days - specifically, only 4906 was sighted, and that didn't turn a wheel. By contrast my own visit in February 2018 yielded all of them except F40 4913 working. Are there a number of WOH locos still oos for PTC installation? Would it be possible for someone to post a fleet status update?
Yes. Most if not all are held from service awaiting PTC installation. As of earlier this year, the work was being held up owing to a dispute over who was responsible for the cost of the installation. I do not know if this has been resolved. I do not have a current fleet status.
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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by Backshophoss » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:43 pm

Most of the WOH fleet is pooled with NJT's fleet,Cars and power could be anywhere on the Hoboken side. :(
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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by Graeme Salt » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:07 am

CNJGeep wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:01 pm
Graeme Salt wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:05 am
A recent UK visitor to the NYC area reports seeing very little of the WOH locomotive fleet active at Hoboken over the course of several days - specifically, only 4906 was sighted, and that didn't turn a wheel. By contrast my own visit in February 2018 yielded all of them except F40 4913 working. Are there a number of WOH locos still oos for PTC installation? Would it be possible for someone to post a fleet status update?
Yes. Most if not all are held from service awaiting PTC installation. As of earlier this year, the work was being held up owing to a dispute over who was responsible for the cost of the installation. I do not know if this has been resolved. I do not have a current fleet status.
Thanks - that explains the lack of visibility.

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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by TDowling » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:55 pm

I wish the MTA would pony up some money to get better locomotives like they did with the comets.

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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by blockline4180 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:19 pm

Seems all the WOH engines are STILL sidelined. I'm guessing there is still a dispute who should pay for PTC installation or is it now other issues??
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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by Backshophoss » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:09 pm

It would help if MN puts in a running repair shop at Campbell Hall yard,instead of dealing with MMC,what hurts is nothing can cycle to Harmon
for heavy repair.
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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by TDowling » Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:40 pm

I doubt that is going to happen. The bureaucratic red tape might be excessive between the two states. It would have to be NJ Transit that erects the repair shop.

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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by CNJGeep » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:33 am

4901 is in for PTC at Morristown.

4905 was used in early September for about four days as a buried locomotive.
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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by Backshophoss » Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:55 pm

NJT has not been a good steward to MN equipment,that's why MN needs to put in a runnning repair shop at Campbell Hall yard.
The bickering over the ACSES install on the WOH fleet by NJT is case in point!!
Harmon would have completed the install for the WOH fleet by now!
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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by EuroStar » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:34 am

Can someone with insight into the internal organization politics enlighten me why the installation of PTC became such an issue? Was NJT trying to overcharge for the work? While the equipment is pooled, it is still MN's equipment, so I am sure MN knew they had to pay for the upgrades.

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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by EuroStar » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:12 am

Earlier this week I observed 4901 in a revenue move trailing a set heading to Hoboken without a cab car behind it. 4906 was observed leading a train out of Hoboken. Looks like that the Metro-North engines are finally getting the PTC gear. Anyone know if all of them have it already?

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Re: West of Hudson Fleet Status

Post by blockline4180 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:13 am

EuroStar wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:12 am
Earlier this week I observed 4901 in a revenue move trailing a set heading to Hoboken without a cab car behind it. 4906 was observed leading a train out of Hoboken. Looks like that the Metro-North engines are finally getting the PTC gear. Anyone know if all of them have it already?

No, but all the Geeps should have them very soon... THe F40's I'm assuming will be next.. The work is being done at Morristown M&E locomotive yard.
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