sery2831 wrote:jamesinclair wrote:sery2831 wrote:jamesinclair wrote:
False. You dont need a fare machine at every stop, because the card lets you go negative, meaning you can load cash in Boston (or one of many retail partners). The MBTA bus system is quite large, and there are no fare machines anywhere near the outer branches of it.
Not sure where you get it will allow you to go a negative balance, but that is not true.
And last I checked you can add value to the card on every bus and trolley.
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Just to clarify, the Caltrain system lets you go negative, the MBTA system could as well (just like DC does).
On the systems that allow you to go negative. Do you have to the card registered(or pay for a card), or can you just let the card go in the trash and get a new one and not repay the negative balance? I know in Washington DC the cards are not free for example. Boston is always going to have free cards.
DC charges $5. Originally, that was more than the most you could go negative with. I believe since the last fare hikes you COULD save money by using and discarding a card every day, but it was determined that such a small proportion of the population would do that it was useless to deal with.
On Caltrain, the card is $3, youre required to have $1.25 on it when you start to avoid the issue of profiting off throwing cards away.
Commuting Boston Student wrote:
What happens if I walk right through without tapping? That's a serious question - it doesn't seem like there's any deterrent to just going "oops! Must've forgot to tap" as you evade the fare...
What happens if you walk through an MBTA gate behind someone without tapping? What happens if you hit in a MBCR restroom while the train is in motion?
That's what fines are for. You can do it, but as long as the fine is high enough, and fare checks are frequent enough, you wont.
Assume the following:
Fare: $2
Odds of being checked: 25%
Rides per week: 12
If you pay: $24 - max savings for not paying
If you don't, youre caught 3 times.
If the fine is $50, then $75, then $100, you've saved $24, and now you have to pay over $200.