7000 series cars doors closing without warning message

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7000 series cars doors closing without warning message

Post by davinp » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:22 am

The safety commission is investigating why some 7000 series car doors are closing without saying "step back, doors closing"

It appears that some train operators are closing the doors to quickly and departing the station before the message can play

The recorded warnings are a federal requirement listed in the Americans With Disabilities Act, which states that “auditory and visual warning signals shall be provided to alert passengers of closing doors.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/transpor ... t-warning/

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Re: 7000 series cars doors closing without warning message

Post by danib62 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:48 am

davinp wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:22 am

The recorded warnings are a federal requirement listed in the Americans With Disabilities Act, which states that “auditory and visual warning signals shall be provided to alert passengers of closing doors.”
A simple chime fulfills that requirement. WMATA really needs to trim down the long winded opening/closing announcements.
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Re: 7000 series cars doors closing without warning message

Post by Sand Box John » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:47 pm

danib62

A simple chime fulfills that requirement.


I was thinking the same thing.

WMATA really needs to trim down the long winded opening/closing announcements.

To me the added chatter is nothing more then time wasting redundant white noise.
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Re: 7000 series cars doors closing without warning message

Post by STrRedWolf » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:20 pm

Sand Box John wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:47 pm
danib62

A simple chime fulfills that requirement.


I was thinking the same thing.

WMATA really needs to trim down the long winded opening/closing announcements.

To me the added chatter is nothing more then time wasting redundant white noise.
Is there a minimum time that the doors must be open for?
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Re: 7000 series cars doors closing without warning message

Post by Sand Box John » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:33 pm

STrRedWolf

Is there a minimum time that the doors must be open for?


To my knowledge no. WMATA is better known for their long dwell times not short ones.
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Re: 7000 series cars doors closing without warning message

Post by mtuandrew » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:37 am

Sand Box John wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:47 pm
danib62

A simple chime fulfills that requirement.


I was thinking the same thing.

WMATA really needs to trim down the long winded opening/closing announcements.

To me the added chatter is nothing more then time wasting redundant white noise.
Something more like “deedoodeedoo Step back, doors closing” maybe?

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Re: 7000 series cars doors closing without warning message

Post by danib62 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:42 am

I think the bigger ADA issue is how long it takes for a 7k train to announce it's destination. Get rid of the ridiculously pointless and long "doors opening step back to allow customers to exit. when boarding please move to the center of the car" announcement.
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Re: 7000 series cars doors closing without warning message

Post by STrRedWolf » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:50 pm

danib62 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:42 am
I think the bigger ADA issue is how long it takes for a 7k train to announce it's destination. Get rid of the ridiculously pointless and long "doors opening step back to allow customers to exit. when boarding please move to the center of the car" announcement.
Well, they are legally required to say "This is a 7000 series train" now due to a few ADA incidents.
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Re: 7000 series cars doors closing without warning message

Post by daybeers » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:08 pm

STrRedWolf wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:50 pm
danib62 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:42 am
I think the bigger ADA issue is how long it takes for a 7k train to announce it's destination. Get rid of the ridiculously pointless and long "doors opening step back to allow customers to exit. when boarding please move to the center of the car" announcement.
Well, they are legally required to say "This is a 7000 series train" now due to a few ADA incidents.
Have they not finished the rubber sides->chains between pairs of cars? I thought the announcement was only until that was finished.

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Re: 7000 series cars doors closing without warning message

Post by danib62 » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:56 pm

Those messages have been gone for a few months as they've completed the retrofit of chains between all cars.
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