The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA)

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Post by Trains » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:03 pm

Crabman1130 wrote:
checkthedoorlight wrote:The roofs of the C3s are grounded, so the catenary just scrapes along it
If the roofs are grounded wouldn't that cause a short? Maybe they are insulated?
How about we just say they designed the equipment so it clears the catenary? If the catenary touched the roof of a C3, the results would be nasty.

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Where is MTA Coordination?

Post by hrfcarl » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:53 am

jlr3266 wrote:Welcome to the public sector....
Even worse is the fact that LIRR & MN are divisions of MTA and still cannot coordinate efforts! One wants ESA, the other WSA and both could use additional space at NYP & GCT. The ESA plan/project could have been modifed to meet these needs - MTA only had 35+ years to come up with such a plan - and presented to Feds.

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The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA)

Post by Herring » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:23 pm

Video Link

Looks like the ESA is full steam ahead for 2016 opening.

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by mark777 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:31 am

Probably related to the ESA project, the old shop building in Sunnyside yard is currently being demolished as we speak. as of last week, the entire west end of the building has been leveled. I assume the new tunnels would pass under that location onto 21st street.

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by Herring » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:52 pm

Mark,
Thank you for the info. The original plan of the ESA project did include a for a new Sunnyside station. Could that be the location of the new Sunnyside station?

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by jlr3266 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:26 pm

No, that is just a building near the tunnels. The contractor can use the area for staging and Amtrak wants the building gone.

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by tun » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:40 pm

Nice video. That dude needs to work a bit on not coming off so creepy in his delivery of his lines. :P

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by mark777 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:14 am

The proposed "new" Sunnyside station from the maps that I have, show that the station will be served by trains heading into Penn station and not GCT trains, although a new LIRR yard would be built in the current A Yard to store equipment for GCT. The station location looks to be west of the overpass where Queens BLVD and No. 7 train pass over, by Harold interlocking. But the maps I have were from some years back, so I don't know if they changed it recently? A bit of progress can be seen already at the east end of Harold where Amtrak NH line meets with the LIRR, but digging for the portals that will meet with the mainline at Harold havent been started yet.

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by tun » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:54 pm

How's progress going? We really should have a ESA sticky btw.

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by nyrmetros » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:41 pm

Great video. good to see the work already done. I'd like to know more thuogh about the tunneling unde sunnyside and the connection at Harold.

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by workextra » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:47 am

Being that Long Island has a high water table, has there been any issues of ground water seeping into the work area in the area around Sunny Side?
The work is slowly but steadily progressing. Some days work at Harold does not commence due to scheduling/manpower changes and or weather conditions, Along with other potential variables.

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by Head-end View » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:07 pm

What is the purpose of a Sunnyside Station? I'm sure it'll be cheaper to take the subway from there to Manhattan. And there is already the Woodside Station serving that area of Queens if you want to go east. I'm surprised the LIRR would want to further slow the trip into and out of New York by creating one more stop.

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by workextra » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:03 am

That is a good question.
If they claim that other "Queens" stations are not worth resurrecting such as Woodhaven (Atlantic Branch), Regopark/Grand St (Mainline-West) or Elmhust (Pt. Washington Branch) Why is there all of a sudden this heavy demand for a station at Sunnyside?

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by tun » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:08 am

If it's where I heard it might be (on Queens Blvd. below the 7 train tracks right after 33rd St. - Rawson St.) then it seems even more useless.

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Re: The East Side Access Project (Video)

Post by BobLI » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:09 am

Some local politician probably demanded a Sunnyside station in his district, MTA said ok and we can waste millions of dollars (taxpayers) on the statio study and construction!

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