C420s L1 series 200-221 current status

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C420s L1 series 200-221 current status

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I took the information from here: http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/lirrc420.htm Post LIRR Status at bottom of page and condensed as follows:

200 is now (LA&L) Livonia, Avon & Lakeville #420, Lakeville, NY, operational in service 1995 Photo: Lakeville Yard Bulk Transfer Facility
201 D&H ex-LIRR #201 unknown
202 scrapped
203 scrapped
204 scrapped 220 in Mexico, going to museum, scrapped 204 parts to go for 220 08/2008
205 scrapped
206 scrapped Benoit Girard Metal Co
207 scrapped, used for parts. 1989 Photo: William S. Smith, Sr. C420 #207 LR&W #101 is scrapped, used for parts.
208 scrapped
209 scrapped Benoit Girard Metal Co
210 scrapped Went to the Virginia & Maryland RR with 221, 210 sunk on a carfloat & was scrapped. Info: Tim Darnell
211 scrapped Benoit Girard Metal Co
212 scrapped by R&S
213 Dakota Southern RR #213, operational, needs wheel work
214 scrapped by R&S
215 scrapped by R&S
216 scrapped Benoit Girard Metal Co
217 scrapped by R&S
218 scrapped by R&S
219 scrapped by R&S
220 Mexico, going to museum, scrapped 204 parts to go for 220
221 NYS&W #260 Buffalo 6/1987 Went to the Virginia & Maryland RR with 210. Buffalo Southern #2010 Gowanda, NY 7/07/2001

Which leaves the following open items as to their current status: Anyone with further updates/photos/etc.

200 is now (LA&L) Livonia, Avon & Lakeville #420, Lakeville, NY, operational in service 1995 Photo: Lakeville Yard Bulk Transfer Facility
201 D&H ex-LIRR #201 unknown
213 Dakota Southern RR #213, operational, needs wheel work
220 Mexico, going to museum
221 NYS&W #260 Buffalo 6/1987 Went to the Virginia & Maryland RR with 210. Buffalo Southern #2010 Gowanda, NY 7/07/2001

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211 is alive and well it’s at Scranton pa. As a parts donor it is number 41.

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220 is still indeed at a museum in mexico. Check it out on google aerial view: 20.97738, -89.61189 Doesn't look like it has moved in years. Could use a repaint but looks intact.

The 213 is stored in south dakota, though it seemed highly unlikely that it'll ever be repaired. When I was out there two years ago they had some leased GPs doing the work. It was located on a dead line with an ex SOO Gp30, a few 70 tonners and alco switchers (all of which were in far worse shape).

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It would be great to get that 213 back home to L.I. Also 213 needs a new traction motor.

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I agree with the previous comment. Missing out on a C420, one of the few remaining examples of heavy LIRR commuter power, is really dropping the ball. I think a specific campaign to determine the expense of A) preserving the locomotive, and B) moving it somewhere where volunteers can stabilize it for preservation, could be marshalled by somebody inventive and motivated, with a clear plan. Whther it winds up at OBRM or RMLI, is irrelevant at this time.
And no, I am busy restoring a steam locomotive in Maine. Sorry.

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I'm gonna be honest - I totally agree. a C420 would be great for any LI museum, especially as the time when they were used is getting farther and farther away.

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Livonia, Avon & Lakeville #420 is still in active service in 2019.
Photo from a month ago:

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/719448/

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Scot: Is she ex-LIRR or LV? If so, which original number?

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RGlueck wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:40 pm
Scot: Is she ex-LIRR or LV? If so, which original number?
Sorry about that R, but based on the thread we are in, I didn't think specifying was necessary. ;)
LAL 420 is LIRR 200.

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RGlueck wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:40 pm
Scot: Is she ex-LIRR or LV? If so, which original number?
420 was LIRR 200: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPi ... x?id=89106

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Is that middle unit an L2? It has an LIRR-style expanded fuel tank, and the revised trucks.
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452 Card wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:00 pm
Is that middle unit an L2? It has an LIRR-style expanded fuel tank, and the revised trucks.
It's a C430.

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Thank you for a very positive report on ex-LIRR 200.

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I don't think any L2s survived.

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ConstanceR46 wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:14 pm
I don't think any L2s survived.
http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/lirrc420.htm
Rich Goddard in his article: 'The Long Island Rail Road's Workhorse' - Part 2 "...I have been told that 222-229 were all sold to Naporano Iron & Metal of Newark New Jersey. Naporano resold the engines to a South American country..." Anyone?

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