Unusual headlights

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Unusual headlights

Post by PlaneLoverA380 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:13 am

This train IS going westbound. Saw this at Mineola on Friday. This set went out to Huntington about an hour earlier, came just as I was leaving? Did the crew forget to set the markers?
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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by DutchRailnut » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:42 am

ahhh you noticed , lets file it under "sh*t happens "
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by PlaneLoverA380 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:34 am

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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by Absolute-Limited Advance-Approach » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:03 pm

While it is possible the crew forgot it is probable, the FRA does allow the rear headlight to serve as the rear end marker on locomotives (including MU equipment). So should the markers fail this would be appropriate.

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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by BuddR32 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:13 pm

Could be they forgot to put the markers on, as Dutch said. Shit happens.

Could be it had defective marker lights and rolled with the rearward facing headlight on in lieu. It’s allowed by CFR

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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by Absolute-Limited Advance-Approach » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:40 pm

BuddR32 wrote:Could be they forgot to put the markers on, as Dutch said. * happens.

Could be it had defective marker lights and rolled with the rearward facing headlight on in lieu. It’s allowed by CFR
Actually come to think of it, I was following an M3 recently in the same condition, so that was probably the cause. I doubt the crew made the same mistake over several days.

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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by Liquidcamphor » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:29 pm

PlaneLoverA380 do you believe that your mocking advertisement is appropriate? You need to consider taking it down because it is offensive to employees and not very funny. I can do it myself as moderator and have been by asked by several forum members to take it down but am asking YOU to rethink what you posted.

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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by BuddR32 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:30 am

Liquidcamphor wrote:PlaneLoverA380 do you believe that your mocking advertisement is appropriate? You need to consider taking it down because it is offensive to employees and not very funny. I can do it myself as moderator and have been by asked by several forum members to take it down but am asking YOU to rethink what you posted.
I didn't even notice the 'advertisement' because I posted my reply from my phone. Had I noticed, I wouldn't have offered a legitimate reply. The railroad (and any large operation) provides an abundance of material for mockery, however, mocking something as simple as forgetting to put on marker lights, (if it was even forgetful) is scraping the bottom. The lazy comment is uncalled for. The whole post on a forum that is to provide information, and intelligent conversation among those in and interested in the rail industry is inappropriate. If you wish to get insightful replies in future posts, leave the satire on facebook or twitter.

As for the weak M7s, as much a fan of the M3s I am, the construction of the M7 is far superior to the M3. The Had the two recent major wrecks been M3s, I'm almost certain there would have been fatalities.

As for the weird subway style cars. Its well known that the design of the original LI Metropolitans set the design standard of all subsequent classes of NY subway & commuter rail cars for the next 25 years. Check your history, or ask the lazy employees that have pride in their profession.

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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by PlaneLoverA380 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:49 am

Liquidcamphor I removed it. Thank you for letting me know. Sorry about that.
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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by Liquidcamphor » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:56 am

PlaneLoverA380 thank you!

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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by PlaneLoverA380 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:05 am

BuddR32 wrote:Could be they forgot to put the markers on, as Dutch said. * happens.

Could be it had defective marker lights and rolled with the rearward facing headlight on in lieu. It’s allowed by CFR
One time I saw a C3 set running westbound. On the rear DM, both the headlights and markers were on. Is this just forgetful, or a procedure as BuddR32 said.
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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by ConstanceR46 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:11 pm

No railcar without tank armor could take a concrete slab to the front. If anything the fact it didn't kill anyone helps show how well the M7s are built.

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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by DutchRailnut » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:15 pm

dude what has that comment have to do with topic on hand ??
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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by ExCon90 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:57 pm

At one time (how long ago?) westbound trains not stopping at Jamaica displayed red markers on the head end in addition to the headlights; later, the practice was used to denote trains that were short cars, as a heads-up to commuters who normally waited towards the ends of platforms to ride the head- or rear-end cars. Is any of that still done?

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Re: Unusual headlights

Post by Liquidcamphor » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:02 pm

No railcar without tank armor could take a concrete slab to the front. If anything the fact it didn't kill anyone helps show how well the M7s are built.
ConstanceR46 please try to stay on topic otherwise it distracts from the discussion in the thread. By the way, I agree with what you wrote.

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