Newsday - LIRR brings on new signaling system

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Re: Newsday - LIRR brings on new signaling system

Post by nyandw » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:42 pm

Thanks, Dave...

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Re: Newsday - LIRR brings on new signaling system

Post by SRich » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:18 pm

Is this the system that wil be used on ESA ?
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Re: Newsday - LIRR brings on new signaling system

Post by Backshophoss » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:36 pm

The "reduced aspect" wayside signals with LIRR's ASC/ACSES cab signal systems will be installed in the ESA tunnels.
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Re: Newsday - LIRR brings on new signaling system

Post by Head-end View » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:26 pm

Is the LIRR's plan to also install them from Floral Park to Hicksville as part of the 3rd track project? And if so, is there any chance that the employees can or will kick up enough of a storm to pressure the Railroad to use conventional signals instead like those in the Harold area.

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Re: Newsday - LIRR brings on new signaling system

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:13 am

I think LIRR will probably install color light signals along the Main Line, especially where the third track is installed between Floral Park and Hicksville.

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Re: Newsday - LIRR brings on new signaling system

Post by Head-end View » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:48 pm

All new signals on LIRR are color-light signals now. The question is whether they will use conventional signals (like those at Woodside, Wantagh and Amityville) or their new Reduced Aspect Signals like they installed from Farmingdale to Ronkonkoma.

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Re: Newsday - LIRR brings on new signaling system

Post by MattAmity90 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:44 am

In my honest opinion, all signals have to meet a minimum height. These reduced aspect signals are similar to the ones you see on the sides of subway tunnels. They should be at the minimum of the engineer's eye-level, or above the tracks (signal gantries). After all, these are the traffic signals of any railroad, but instead of sitting 2 feet above the pavement in a car, the engineer of a LIRR train is sitting 5 feet above the rail (50 inches from rail to leaflet doors, plus 10 maybe 12 inches for the seat. I have another idea of what RAS should stand for, but I'm not a basher, I've been riding the LIRR for over 25 years and it has earned my respect and I respect it.
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Re: Newsday - LIRR brings on new signaling system

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:37 am

Yes, signals should meet a minimum height. Not all of Metro North's signals are dwarfs. They use plenty of line side signals. In fact, there are dwarf signals that are on structures that go several feet above the ground on Metro North.

On the LIRR, yes, the new signal systems are color light. There are ones that go three down while there are others that go two across and one below, forming an equilateral triangle.

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Re: Newsday - LIRR brings on new signaling system

Post by Head-end View » Sat May 18, 2019 7:04 pm

It seems like the LIRR has the attitude that position-light signals are no longer available from the signal manufacturers, hence the switch to color-lights in recent years. So imagine my surprise this week, when riding SEPTA in Philadelphia, and seeing brand new position-light pedestal signals in and near the west end of the Center-City tunnel.

The heads are distinctly different in appearance from the traditional Pennsy heads. They are thin rectangular shaped boxes mounted on the standard type pedestal. LED lit with very bright silvery-white lights; very sharp looking. I've asked on the SEPTA board if anyone knows who the manufacturer is. I assume they were custom built for SEPTA, given that pos-lights are not common in new installations anymore.

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