Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by Gadfly » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:51 pm

It may be a bit far, but in just a week, ALL the Heritage units will be together at the NC Transportation Museum for the July 4 holiday. Google the museum's address for details. It's going to be a humdinger of a celebration, they tell me, and, perhaps, the only chance to see ALL the Heritage locomotives gathered in one place. Tickets are $25, and there's a special night photo session scheduled on one of the nights. Lots of fans from all over will traveling to Spencer, NC for this event.

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by tahawus84 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:08 pm

really wish the 4th was falling closer to the weekend. really was trying to get to spencer to see these. coming from ny and just cant do it. cant wait to see the photos

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by jtbell » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:28 am

Fortunately Spencer is an easy day trip for me, and I have time off, so I'm planning to be there on the 3rd, when it will hopefully be less crowded than on the 4th. If the weather works out OK, of course. The current forecast for the 3rd is "A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny, with a high near 95. Chance of precipitation is 30%." If you're going, bring plenty of water and sunscreen.

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by blockline4180 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:41 am

Well, they certainly saved the best for last!! All I can say is, Wow!!

http://railpictures.net/photo/401871/
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by terminalfanatic » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:37 am

Wow! That's 20 engines already? I thought these good times were never going to end.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by 161pw165 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:37 pm

blockline4180 wrote:Well, they certainly saved the best for last!! All I can say is, Wow!!

http://railpictures.net/photo/401871/
Ding, ding, ding!!!!! Winner.............

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by charlie6017 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:17 pm

That's one gorgeous engine.............hope to see a shot of it someday on ex-Lackawanna trackage!

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by Tadman » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:17 pm

Absolutely the winner - the DLW look is amazing. You can see why EL and ACR adopted the look, and I'm a bit surprised WC didn't adopt it when they bought ACR.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by terminalfanatic » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:09 am

The photos are poring in on the move of the heritage units to Spencer, NC. For what will undoubtedly be one of the biggest photo sessions in railfan history. Shame is has to be 11 hours from my home or I would be making this special trip.

http://railpictures.net/photo/401899

http://railpictures.net/photo/401901

http://railpictures.net/photo/401893

http://railpictures.net/photo/401891
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by TSTOM » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:12 pm

Poster terminal's photos below is the initial view for me of the 'B' end of the LACKAWANNA unit.

Some fellow DL&W fan correct me but I can't recall seeing ANY engine's rear-end painted with the 'wrap' bands....and the decal up near the roof ???

AIR, only the E's and F units ( passenger service ) got this so-called 'Phoebe Snow' streamlined paint scheme. Previously, the F's were painted in the m/g/y 'freight' scheme as has been recreated on the 2 TSRHS and ARHS F3 units now residing and working in Scranton....

http://tristaterail.org/f3_progress_report.html


IMO and in retrospect, NS should have painted these modern day freight diesels in the freight scheme rather than the passenger scheme. The chosen scheme looks GREAT on an E or F cab unit but looks kinda goofy on these manmouth freight diesels.

Anyway, too late now to change it.

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by blockline4180 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:32 pm

TSTOM wrote:Poster terminal's photos below is the initial view for me of the 'B' end of the LACKAWANNA unit.

Some fellow DL&W fan correct me but I can't recall seeing ANY engine's rear-end painted with the 'wrap' bands....and the decal up near the roof ???

AIR, only the E's and F units ( passenger service ) got this so-called 'Phoebe Snow' streamlined paint scheme. Previously, the F's were painted in the m/g/y 'freight' scheme as has been recreated on the 2 TSRHS and ARHS F3 units now residing and working in Scranton....

http://tristaterail.org/f3_progress_report.html


IMO and in retrospect, NS should have painted these modern day freight diesels in the freight scheme rather than the passenger scheme. The chosen scheme looks GREAT on an E or F cab unit but looks kinda goofy on these manmouth freight diesels.

Anyway, too late now to change it.

Hey Tom,

Why don't you show them the money and your blueprints and I'm sure they might accommodate any grievances you might have!
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by TSTOM » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:58 pm

Steven -

Relax....I've no illusions or inclinations of showing any money or scheme drawings ( not blueprints ) to NS and unlike you, I'm not at all inclined to believe that they would accomodate such a juvenile exercise.

As to being happy or unhappy with the rendition is irrelevent. Just opining that these new NS engines are freight only units and the Phoebe Snow streamline scheme was applied by the DL&W primarily on their E and F unit passenger fleet. Perhaps the equally attractive m/g/y freight scheme would have been more historically accurate on these modern behemoths and perhaps been a better cosmetic 'fit' what with all the sharp angles, vents and protrusions to contend with....particularly on the 'B' end.

BTW, the closest this paint job comes close to is what was applied - A plus B ends - by the DL&W on the FM units. Presumedly that is what NS used as a model.

It'll have to do.

BTW, AIR NS took the Lehigh Valley unit back to the paint shop for historically accurate modifications, correct ?

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by blockline4180 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:02 pm

TSTOM wrote:Steven -

Relax....I've no illusions or inclinations of showing any money or scheme drawings ( not blueprints ) to NS and unlike you, I'm not at all inclined to believe that they would accomodate such a juvenile exercise.

Unlike me, Tom??? What exactly are you implying???? Are you saying that I would do something like that???? Because if you are, you are sadly mistaken!!
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by scottychaos » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:03 pm

The Lackawanna unit is absolutely perfect in all respects..
its the most "iconic", by far, of all DL&W schemes, and it was absolutely the right one to use..
and, its prototypically correct to use on a modern DL&W wide cab..
here is a prototype photo that proves it is correct:

http://railpictures.net/photo/401871/

A modern wide cab is quite similar to a cab unit nose..F units, E units etc..
much more so than a spartan cab diesel..
I always thought the scheme looked a bit odd on the Algoma Central units:

http://www.trainnet.org/Libraries/Lib016/AC185.GIF

the maroon "swoop" doesn't quite fit right on a standard cab unit..
but in this case, (NS 1074) it totally works on a wide cab..
There was no other DL&W scheme that would have worked better..others would have been worse.
it was absolutely the way to go! Image

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by blockline4180 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:07 pm

scottychaos wrote:The Lackawanna unit is absolutely perfect in all respects..
its the most "iconic", by far, of all DL&W schemes, and it was absolutely the right one to use..
and, its prototypically correct to use on a modern DL&W wide cab..
here is a prototype photo that proves it is correct:

http://railpictures.net/photo/401871/

A modern wide cab is quite similar to a cab unit nose..F units, E units etc..
much more so than a spartan cab diesel..
I always thought the scheme looked a bit odd on the Algoma Central units:

http://www.trainnet.org/Libraries/Lib016/AC185.GIF

the maroon "swoop" doesn't quite fit right on a standard cab unit..
but in this case, (NS 1074) it totally works on a wide cab..
There was no other DL&W scheme that would have worked better..others would have been worse.
it was absolutely the way to go! Image

Scot

I agree completely Scott, but a certain person who posted above you is not satisfied!! I guess you can't please everyone...

NS does a good thing here for customer relations and buffs a like, and yet people still bitch and moan!!.. Very sad!!
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