Pan Am Coal Trains

Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.

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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Post by GU1001 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:50 pm

If I recall correctly, in the late 80s to early 90s timeframe, Conrail had an 8000 ton weight restriction on the head pin for the B&A. I do recall seeing helpers on a coal train on one occasion. One of my favorite memories from that timeframe is a loaded coal drag stopped for a crew change at the top of Charlton hill. The 4 C30-7A’s put on quite a show getting it moving again! The sound & the stack fires, you don’t get that show anymore.
Would a CSX routing have more to do with the origin of the coal? Less interchange = a cheaper rate?

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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Post by 690 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:13 pm

CSX routing is likely because they won some bid to provide the coal trains, as CP and NS have in the past. As has been mentioned already, it makes no sense for CSX to run them over Pan Am Southern, and cut NS in on part of the profit, hence the Worcester main routing. I wouldn't be surprised to see the coal trains running with DPU over CSX, and up to Ayer for a power swap with Pan Am, which can use a trio of C40s from Ayer to Bow.

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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Post by roberttosh » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:49 pm

Back when the coal trains were running on the B&A there could be up to 10 through trains running daily on the Worcester-Ayer segment. How times have changed...

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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Post by newpylong » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:38 pm

I remember SENE, NESE, ML-(whatever the Ford rack symbols were called). Then the random coal and local extras. What were the others?

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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Post by roberttosh » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:53 pm

SENE/NESE (Selkirk/Portland)
SENA-LA / NA-LASE (Selkirk/Nashua or Lawrence, Changed back and forth)
ML438/ML439 (West Springfield/Ayer-Ford)
TV95/TV96 (Worcester/Waterville Hunt intermodal)

Plus the coal trains, the occasional local and of course WOGR/GRWO on the joint PW/PAS stretch. Once Conrail was split up the second Selkirk manifest set, the Ford train and the TV trains quickly disappeared. The coal trains were already shifted to the Fitchburg by then.

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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Post by CPF363 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:37 pm

If coal trains do in fact return to the Worcester Line, one wonders if the line will receive any repairs to handle those heavy trains once again.

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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Post by johnpbarlow » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:00 am

According to the Weight Limit Map on Pan Am's corporate web site, the Worcester Main does support 286K lb cars. Of course, track repairs might still be needed on the line...

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/ ... -Model.pdf

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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Post by newpylong » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:19 am

If it was long term traffic maybe, but it's not. They will poke along at 10 MPH just like the Northern.

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Re: Pan Am Coal Trains

Post by Rockingham Racer » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:09 pm

When I lived in Tyngsboro in the early 60s, 10 MPH was their speed even back then. The milk train made good time, though.
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