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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by Greg Moore » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:11 am

I've noticed more issues with their site lately (like "reservations being unavailable" and then hit refresh and it working. A friend has reported the same thing.)

And had breakfast with a fellow passenger who was reporting similar issues.

Wonder if they've got a bad server or two behind the load balancer.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by Bob Roberts » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:20 am

I have noticed similar issues booking the NEC and the Carolinian (low bucket disappearing and then reappearing during interrupted booking processes) -- I chalked it up to purchases and cancellations but it sounds exactly like what you are seeing on the Shuttles.

hmmmmm

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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by MACTRAXX » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:05 am

Everyone: This is why I am for making routes like NHV-HFD-SPG unreserved...

If CDOT takes over this service in the future fares would be flat and probably cheaper...

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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by theozno » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:09 pm

MACTRAXX wrote:Everyone: This is why I am for making routes like NHV-HFD-SPG unreserved...

If CDOT takes over this service in the future fares would be flat and probably cheaper...

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I would get a 10 trip but fare code 1 is actually a lot cheaper than a 10 trip & you would not get the 100 (right now 200) AGR points per trip plus almost every trip I take seem to be fare code 1.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by NH2060 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:45 pm

MACTRAXX wrote:Everyone: This is why I am for making routes like NHV-HFD-SPG unreserved...

If CDOT takes over this service in the future fares would be flat and probably cheaper...

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Well with NHHS up and running there will be an unreserved NHV-SPG service so there won't be a need or reason for Amtrak to have the shuttles be unreserved. They'll still serve as connections for NEC trains (either in lieu of additional through trains to SPG or until additional slots, etc. could be allocated -if ever- for such runs).

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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by Jehochman » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:13 pm

I believe the deal between CT and Amtrak provides for cross honoring tickets. Amtrak will operate NHHS under contract by CTDOT. this will probably end up bring like the flat rate Amtrak fares in VT. No more buckets on this route.

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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by kitn1mcc » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:46 pm

i just checked it it would have cost 6.00 to 21.00 dollars. should have just went to the ticket window

you could have also taken Ct transit

and from what i understand the new commuter train is supposed to be just like shoreline east
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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by shadyjay » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:38 pm

In my opinion, I really don't see any need for Amtrak to continue with "Shuttle" service once ConnDOT commuter service begins. I would eliminate Wallingford, Windsor, and Windsor Locks from the Amtrak map. Retain the thru SPG-WAS trains and the Vermonter service, stopping only at intermediate stations in Meriden, Berlin, and Hartford. ConnDOT is already subsidizing shuttle service that connects to/from NER trains at NHV. If a NB NEC train is running late, it will delay its connecting shuttle. Why should ConnDOT subsidize such a service once commuter rail begins on the line? Passengers who want to connect to/from a train to NYC could jump on Metro North, or to go farther south, connect with an Amtrak NER. With the frequency of service that is proposed, the wait wouldn't be too long.

But from what I've read, both the commuter rail and Shuttle service will co-exist. To be honest, I don't see that co-existence lasting too long before ConnDOT drops the shuttle subsidy, in favor of its own service.

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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by DutchRailnut » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:06 pm

the CDOT service would only add to Amtrak service, they own the line, CDOT would only supplement Amtrak services.
If CDOT were smart (and they are not) they would now subsidize the Amtrak fares to fill up current trains first.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by theozno » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:37 pm

kitn1mcc wrote:i just checked it it would have cost 6.00 to 21.00 dollars. should have just went to the ticket window

you could have also taken Ct transit

and from what i understand the new commuter train is supposed to be just like shoreline east
A. ticket window in Meriden was supposed to be open at 10am on Sunday even says so but was not.
B. 6,9,12 & 21 to be exact
C. CT transit is 1 hour, plus it does not run on sundays I believe.

I hope it is operated like SLE oh heck, M8's were supposed to be to New London freeing up the Consists.

it might be a little TMI but I am going up to Meriden from Stamford 2-3 times a week... The girlfriend lives up there. A lot easier than driving and a lot cheaper if you do the 56 cents a mile ratio
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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by theozno » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:40 pm

Jehochman wrote:I believe the deal between CT and Amtrak provides for cross honoring tickets. Amtrak will operate NHHS under contract by CTDOT. this will probably end up bring like the flat rate Amtrak fares in VT. No more buckets on this route.
I really hope so. Team up with the ski resorts too as I have seen the proposed schedule should be 5pm going thru stamford is proposed for 7:30pm. Being a ski instructor at Okemo, It is hard to tell if I have work for the day or not until last minute which makes it hard to get the cheapest fare.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by kitn1mcc » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:42 pm

what section meriden is she in. just have her pick you up for now
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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by theseaandalifesaver » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:12 pm

I've taken Amtrak from Boston to Hartford (which includes Springfield to Hartford) quite a bit and I've never paid more than $9.00 for that segment of the trip. In fact, regardless of time, day and how advance I purchase tickets, it always seems like that segment is usually always the same price.

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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by gprimr1 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:20 pm

I believe Amtrak is considering running the shuttles as far north as Greenfield so I doubt they will stop them.

I think the shuttles should become the express trains on the route and let CT run locals.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield branch fare bucket issue

Post by NH2060 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:32 am

gprimr1 wrote:I believe Amtrak is considering running the shuttles as far north as Greenfield so I doubt they will stop them.
The plan all along has been to eventually have 4-6(?) round trips (presumably Amtrak) up to Greenfield. However there are proposals to have a separate contractor (including Pan Am) operate their own passenger trains so aside from the Vermonter -and any additional Montrealer or other through trains from south of SPG- who knows who'll operate any additional services. Some NHHS runs could possibly be extended to Greenfield as well.
I think the shuttles should become the express trains on the route and let CT run locals.
I believe that's part of the plan as well, most likely having them be NHV-HFD-SPG runs. They certainly won't be stopping at any of the planned new stations for NHHS. Having them only stop at only a handful of stations would presumably streamline the new fare system.

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