Thanksgiving Week Extras

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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by Acela150 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:11 pm

phillymountainrailfan wrote:
Acela150 wrote:
phillymountainrailfan wrote:
CNJGeep wrote:
MACTRAXX wrote:Each pair (and some of the A3 singles) had restrooms-which was a major factor.
The singles all lost their restrooms in the 1990s rebuild. This doesn't stop NJT from putting single cars on. The last few years have seen three married pairs and two single cars on at least one of the two sets.
MACTRAXX wrote:Amtrak has also
leased SEPTA P/P equipment primarily for either PHL-HAR or as standby - at least two of the cab
cars DO have a working restroom - that is kept locked and not available to the public.
They did not spare a set in 2017, and I don't remember them doing it in 2016 either.

As for restrooms, I can tell you with certitude that no cab car has a toilet. 2401 and 2408 don't even have the cabinet anymore, and the remainder only have a hand dryer and a sink (with no running water.) The last time those cars had toilets was when they went to Altoona, and they were installed and removed before and after the event, respectively. SEPTA does not have any facilities to drain toilet tanks.
Septa has always had a push pull set ready for Sunday after.

I would hope that septa gets a chance to run their sets this year since njt is up a creek
Septa hasn't given Amtrak a trainset in quite a few years. Due to the reason mentioned above, a lack of restroom. As well as the unreliable AEM-7's that Septa had that are now nothing but yard goats or assigned to work trains.

Septa has provided a set every year as backup in case of a break down and they had to take over. Also Marc trains and njt trains Don t have bathrooms in them that's why Marc adds a cafe car to their sets
I'd like to know where you get your information from. Cause it's 100% false. For years there wasn't a cafe car on the Marc sets. NJT trains DO have restrooms. As well as Marc sets.

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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by chuchubob » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:21 pm

The NEC timetable is up. It looks like two MARC trains and no NJ Transit.

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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by hi55us » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:31 pm

chuchubob wrote:The NEC timetable is up. It looks like two MARC trains and no NJ Transit.
Hmn, wonder if this was a typo on the first page.

Business Class can enter the club acela?
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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by Rockingham Racer » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:27 am

Has to be a mistake. I'm sure they meant First Class Acela passengers.

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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by east point » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:29 am

Rockingham Racer wrote:Has to be a mistake. I'm sure they meant First Class Acela passengers.

We Don't read it that way !

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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by MACTRAXX » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:50 pm

Everyone:
From further review of the 2018 Thanksgiving TT there are only going to be two round trips using
MARC equipment on Sunday November 25 that are listed as "Holiday Commuter" schedules:

Train 1054-Leaves WAS at 9:55AM; PHL at 12:01PM and arrives at NYP at 1:30PM - to 1063 S.
Train 1056-Leaves WAS at 2:30PM; PHL at 4:39PM and arrives at NYP at 6:05PM - to 1065 S.
Train 1063-Leaves NYP at 3:30PM; PHL at 5:02PM and arrives at WAS at 7:03PM.
Train 1065-Leaves NYP at 8:20 PM; PHL at 9:50PM and arrives at WAS at 11:51PM.

Stops on each train listed by three letter code:
1054: WAS, NCR, BAL, WIL, PHL, NWK, NYP.
1056: WAS, NCR, BWI, BAL, WIL, PHL, TRE, NWK, NYP.
1063: NYP, NWK, MET, TRE, PHL, WIL, BAL, BWI, NCR, WAS.
1065: NYP, NWK, PHL, WIL, BAL, BWI, NCR, WAS.

As previously noticed these look to be the only scheduled trains operating on Sunday 11/25
that will be using leased equipment on the NEC...MACTRAXX
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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by STrRedWolf » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:08 pm

MACTRAXX wrote: Stops on each train listed by three letter code:
1054: WAS, NCR, BAL, WIL, PHL, NWK, NYP.
1056: WAS, NCR, BWI, BAL, WIL, PHL, TRE, NWK, NYP.
1063: NYP, NWK, MET, TRE, PHL, WIL, BAL, BWI, NCR, WAS.
1065: NYP, NWK, PHL, WIL, BAL, BWI, NCR, WAS.
Do we know if MARC's leasing an HHP-8 on each of the trainsets?
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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by Acela150 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:28 pm

Rockingham Racer wrote:Has to be a mistake. I'm sure they meant First Class Acela passengers.
In all technical terms NE Regional Passengers riding in Business Class can pay I believe $20 for a day pass to use the ClubAcela Lounges in Philly and Boston. DC and NY do not offer such a pass as they are used heavily. Especially NYP. At times it's SRO.

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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by MACTRAXX » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:43 am

STrRedWolf wrote:
MACTRAXX wrote: Stops on each train listed by three letter code:
1054: WAS, NCR, BAL, WIL, PHL, NWK, NYP.
1056: WAS, NCR, BWI, BAL, WIL, PHL, TRE, NWK, NYP.
1063: NYP, NWK, MET, TRE, PHL, WIL, BAL, BWI, NCR, WAS.
1065: NYP, NWK, PHL, WIL, BAL, BWI, NCR, WAS.
Do we know if MARC's leasing an HHP-8 on each of the trainsets?
RW: Today (11/25) is the big day - and it will be interesting to see what Amtrak assigns to these
two train sets on one of the busiest travel days of the year...MACTRAXX
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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by liftedjeep » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:53 pm

-MARC Holiday Extra #1054 through Bridesburg (Philadelphia) on 11/25 with Amtrak City Sprinter #641 on the point of six MARC coaches and an Amtrak cafe car:

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-Going away shot:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5052615" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by STrRedWolf » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:17 pm

liftedjeep wrote:-MARC Holiday Extra #1054 through Bridesburg (Philadelphia) on 11/25 with Amtrak City Sprinter #641 on the point of six MARC coaches and an Amtrak cafe car:

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-Going away shot:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5052615" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Well, that answers *THAT* question. But gaaaah... can't we get a spare MARC IIA retrofitted with a cafe section?!? (I know, I know, time, money, maintenance, etc). The Sprinter didn't look too out of place but the Amtrak Cafe looked like it was being towed like a private vehicle being pulled into the shops.

Good choice though to add cafe cars to the train sets... although, I wonder if Amtrak could of made a killing serving turkey burgers with secret sauce (ie gravy).
"The last and final stop is BALTIMORE PENN STATION." I can has MARC V?

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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by mtuandrew » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:23 pm

I wish N-S still had an American production facility and would bid on the Amtrak single-level contract with their DMU A-car and C-car bodies (which look like a mildly updated MARC II or South Shore trailer.) They just look good behind a Sprinter, hard to explain why.

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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by CNJGeep » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:45 pm

STrRedWolf wrote: Well, that answers *THAT* question. But gaaaah... can't we get a spare MARC IIA retrofitted with a cafe section?!? (I know, I know, time, money, maintenance, etc). The Sprinter didn't look too out of place but the Amtrak Cafe looked like it was being towed like a private vehicle being pulled into the shops.

Good choice though to add cafe cars to the train sets... although, I wonder if Amtrak could of made a killing serving turkey burgers with secret sauce (ie gravy).
The cafe is there for extra lavatory capacity, so there aren't two restrooms (there's an extra cab car behind the motor) for seven cars of people. It does not serve as a cafe, unless they tried something new this year, which is doubtful.
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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by twropr » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:06 am

Did anyone see whether the 1060-series trains on Sunday were NJ Transit MUs?
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Re: Thanksgiving Week Extras

Post by liftedjeep » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:04 am

twropr wrote:Did anyone see whether the 1060-series trains on Sunday were NJ Transit MUs?
Thanks!
Andy
Jacksonville, Fl

NJ Transit did not run any Holiday Extras this year. The 1060 trains were the southbound trips of the MARC extras.
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