Viewliner II Delivery/Production

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by Matt Johnson » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:28 pm

Bag-dorm spotted bringing up the rear of the Silver Meteor on the Ashland railcam last night:
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by gokeefe » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:28 pm

In service??
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by Matt Johnson » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:37 pm

No, behind the baggage bringing up the rear so definitely deadheading.

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by WhartonAndNorthern » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:49 pm

Matt Johnson wrote:No, behind the baggage bringing up the rear so definitely deadheading.
Of course it comes on the one evening I'm not watching Ashland!

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by bostontrainguy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:34 am

Did you see the posting of the pics of the cafe car on the Lake Shore Limited Boston section? They have removed 4 tables to put in bike racks!!! Seriously Amtrak?

These baggage/dorms got to get out there and stop the insanity!

(PS - for those who don't know, Amtrak has removed the baggage car from 448/449 and eliminated checked baggage)

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by Rockingham Racer » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:09 pm

The bag dorms ARE out there, on their way to Hialeah. Probably for storage would be my guess.

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by Tadman » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:01 pm

I wish they'd store the full bags and replace with bag-dorms. Those bags are half empty, so it would be better to run bag-dorms with crew sleeping in the dorms and more revenue space, but same car count and head count.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by Gilbert B Norman » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:26 pm

Rockingham Racer wrote:The bag dorms ARE out there, on their way to Hialeah. Probably for storage would be my guess.
Unless something has occurred not reported by the several railroad forums, one Bag-Dorm and one Sleeper have been delivered. Neither is in revenue service, and apparently are just "tinker toys" at present.

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by Bob Roberts » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:40 pm

Tadman wrote:I wish they'd store the full bags and replace with bag-dorms. Those bags are half empty, so it would be better to run bag-dorms with crew sleeping in the dorms and more revenue space, but same car count and head count.
And give the crew a place to camp out other than the tables in the cafe (4 tables were consumed by crew on the 79 last week)

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by mcgrath618 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:46 pm

Question: I just saw two of these diners on an Amtrak train pulling into 30th from NYC, and it’s opposite. What trains would these have been, and are these things in revenue service now?

Btw they met each other at 30th around 3:45 PM.

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by ExCon90 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:05 pm

Most likely southbound #19 and a late #20 (or a very late #98?--not impossible).

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by andrewjw » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:20 am

mcgrath618 wrote:Question: I just saw two of these diners on an Amtrak train pulling into 30th from NYC, and it’s opposite. What trains would these have been, and are these things in revenue service now?

Btw they met each other at 30th around 3:45 PM.
The diners have been in revenue service for some time.

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by Jeff Smith » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:22 pm

Although unfortunately, on some trains, they're very limited "diner" service, and more just a place to heat a box meal.
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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by Gilbert B Norman » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:49 pm

andrewjw wrote:The diners have been in revenue service for some time.
And even to such extent that while only eleven of such are needed to fill the existing assignments, there are all twenty five on hand - quite enough for "protects and shops".

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Re: Viewliner II Delivery/Production

Post by jp1822 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:03 pm

I bet Amtrak would make more money by charging a modest fee for people to use or access the Viewliner II Diner - as a lounge or business class car or something creative - than hauling around a Viewliner Baggage car on some eastern long distance trains (Silver Meteor aside). Amtrak could keep the kitchen closed, and monetize the "other space" - booth seating etc. - for those that want to enjoy this car's comfort in viewing the scenery on the Cardinal, or completing work AND viewing the scenery considering the Vermonter's daylight schedule through New England and peak period travel on the NEC. Many business folks on the NEC enjoy the booth seating for "finishing out their day" working on their laptops in the Amfleet Lounge/Cafe car.

I have been fairly impressed with the Viewliner II production car (Tallahassee) on the Crescent on a recent trip and even the prototype diner when on the Lake Shore Limited. The double row of windows particularly makes this a VERY nice car.

Amtrak has had these brand new multi-million dollar cars parked long enough and to not find SOME SORT of use for them as most long distance trains and others enter peak travel season. Such a waste, and potentially misuse of [brand-new high-end] assets.

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