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Discussion related to everything about model railroading, from layout design and planning, to reviews of related model tools and equipment. Discussion includes O, S, HO, N and Z, as well as narrow gauge topics. Also includes discussion of traditional "toy train" and "collector" topics such as Lionel, American Flyer, Marx, and others. Also includes discussion of outdoor garden railways and live steamers.

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 #1134094  by mtliker
 
Does anyone know if there are or plan to be a RiverLine model available? The closest I've found so far is a manufacturer named Piko.

Thanks!
 #1195919  by Otto Vondrak
 
mtliker wrote:Does anyone know if there are or plan to be a RiverLine model available? The closest I've found so far is a manufacturer named Piko.

Thanks!
What's a RiverLine?

-otto-
 #1196104  by Steve Wagner
 
I think the questioner is referring to New Jersey Transit's light rail operation serving, I think, Camden and points north, perhaps along the ex-Pennsy "Bel-Del" branch.
 #1196174  by ChessieDave
 
The Riverline is CSX's line from NJ to Selkirk up the Hudson River. As far as track plans , no I was never able to find any. But what I did was make CSX line from Iona Island to just N of Fort Montgomery ( very scenic and includes the tunnel) then 2 lines on the other side of the board for Amtrak & Metro North. Put the river in between both lines, then build your mountains ( ie Anthonys Nose) and have your lines loop behind the mountains that way you will have the look of the Riverline on both sides. I chose to do the scenery after Autumn but go with whatever your favorite time of year is. Good Luck
 #1196226  by Steve Wagner
 
Here's a link to the current schedule for New Jersey Transit's River Line, which runs between Camden and Trenton: http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/bus/T0343.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Since the questioner states that the closest model he can find is by Piko, I really think he's talking about this light rail line rather than what used to be the New York Central's West Shore line west of the Hudson between Weehawken, NJ and Selkirk, NY.
 #1196238  by mtliker
 
The light rail from New Jersey Transit is exactly what I was talking about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Line_(New_Jersey_Transit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

The prototype trains are Stadler GTW Diesel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadler_GTW" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The closest I have found so far is a model manufacturer called Piko from Europe that does the Stadler GTW but in electric, and with different front and rear ends than this particular prototype.
 #1196276  by Steve Wagner
 
Piko is a German firm. In German the name is pronounced the same way that the name of the British model railway producer Peco is pronounced in English. The two firms are quite separate.

Before the reunification of Germany late in the 20th century Piko was in "the German Democratic Republic", i.e. "East Germany". When I visited East Berlin in the summer of 1966 I bought and read a copy of Neues Deutschland, the main newspaper there, which was run by the "Socialist Unity Party", formed shortly after the Second World War in the "GDR" when the Social Democrats were forced to merge with the Communists, who ran the show. (The "Museum of German History" in East Berlin mentioned the merger but not that the democratic Socialists had been compelled to accept it.) In that paper was a report that all businesses with more than a certain number of workers (about twenty, I think) that hadn't already been taken over by the government were now going to be. Piko was one such company, and it was the most important manufacturer of model railroad equipment east of the Iron Curtain. (Bear in mind that a substantially greater proportion of Germans than Americans are model railroaders.) Piko's president, who was a Liberal member of the GDR's parliament (supposedly analogous to the business-oriented Free Democrats in "West Germany", but also under the thumb of the Communists), was quoted in the newspaper as saying that the takeover of his firm was fine with him. You can guess what his real thoughts probably were. I would guess that Piko became a privately owned company again shortly after the GDR was absorbed by the Federal Republic of Germany (i.e., the former "West Germany").
 #1198588  by mtliker
 
Thanks for the information regarding Piko.

The riverline engines are very different than what I've seen, and I wasn't sure since the demand for NJT seems high, if there were any companies out there thinking about making the model.
 #1199095  by Mike@IHP
 
mtliker wrote:Thanks for the information regarding Piko.

The riverline engines are very different than what I've seen, and I wasn't sure since the demand for NJT seems high, if there were any companies out there thinking about making the model.
We've got blueprints for the cars and a desire for them from a friend who works for the DBOM company that runs the River Line for NJT, but two things are standing in the way: 1) there is no demonstrated interest in the models, and 2) NJT is horrible on model licensing of their corporate image.

If there were interest, we'd do them as 3D printings for Bowser drives. You'd be on your own for painting and decorating them.

Mike Bartel
IHP
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 #1200179  by mtliker
 
This is great to hear!!

How many people would need to request a model to start production and what would be a decent estimate on cost?

I know microscale has licenses for NJT, I'm wondering if this might be something on their roadmap.