R.J. Corman working on the Robbinsville Industrial Line

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R.J. Corman working on the Robbinsville Industrial Line

Post by Badfish740 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:28 pm

On a trip to see my folks I was crossing the Robbinsville Industrial Line at South Broad Street in Yardville (near the Clayton Block siding) and saw a couple of R.J. Corman trucks. DOT replaced the grade crossing there about two years ago I think-anyone know what's going on now? Maybe Conrail is putting in a bigger siding for Clayton? I used to see cars sitting there during the day-maybe they need room for more?

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Re: R.J. Corman working on the Robbinsville Industrial Line

Post by glennk419 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:09 am

Badfish740 wrote:On a trip to see my folks I was crossing the Robbinsville Industrial Line at South Broad Street in Yardville (near the Clayton Block siding) and saw a couple of R.J. Corman trucks. DOT replaced the grade crossing there about two years ago I think-anyone know what's going on now? Maybe Conrail is putting in a bigger siding for Clayton? I used to see cars sitting there during the day-maybe they need room for more?
Is this the same Clayton as the owners of the sand pit in Woodmansie? If so, any chance it could be related to what's going on further east?
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Re: R.J. Corman working on the Robbinsville Industrial Line

Post by EDM5970 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:21 pm

Same Clayton- Corman is installing some relay welded rail, which I have heard came form the LV main.

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Re: R.J. Corman working on the Robbinsville Industrial Line

Post by SemperFidelis » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:43 pm

It is the same Clayton, but I'd doubt it has anything to do with what is going on at their Woodmansie pit. I can't even imagine what sort of correlation the two events would have to one another (and I thought about it for a while, too), except that maybe Clayton is looking towards a future of higher diesel prices making rail competitive again. That would be good news!

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Re: R.J. Corman working on the Robbinsville Industrial Line

Post by CJPat » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:41 pm

....looking towards a future of higher diesel prices making rail competitive again. That would be good news!
Good News? Maybe for Rfanning. But you realize higher diesel prices that makes rail hauling more competitive ultimately means ALL prices you are currently paying go up! I don't know about you, but I haven't seen a pay raise in 2 years and I don't exactly expect my employer (or anyone else's employer) to give us a compensation pay raise when the economy eventually recovers. So I hardly think that anything involving us paying more money - higher diesel fuels, higher gas taxes, or any other cost increases - is Good News to look forward to.

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Re: R.J. Corman working on the Robbinsville Industrial Line

Post by SemperFidelis » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:39 pm

I was speaking purely from a (non-confrontational) railfanning persective.

You don't have to tell me that railroads run on diesel: I actually pay railroad fuel surcharges every day and very few of my clients like it when I go to them with another 3% increase in rates.

However, even though it's not rail related, I've never balked at helping my employees with putting gas in their cars or paying for a heating bill in the winter if they need it. I make a lot more than they do and there's no reason I shouldn't. How could I tell someone to deny their child a luxury or necessity because they had to spend $50 to fill the tank on their Ford Focus? I'd expect a lonely corner of hell to await me if I were to do such a thing. Some of my employers helped me when I needed it most and it's good to remember that I'm very lucky and blessed compared to many people. When our margin increases, so does the pay of our workers. They are all well worth the money. I expect people who are similarly blessed to do what their conscience tells them is right. If they can afford to help, they should. If they can't, they can't. If your employer or anyone else's can't, they can't. I would doubt if any person would expect any less than that of a good employer.

There are some upsides to higher fuel prices, but I'd imagine that dicussion would probably just turn into another political arguement that would get another thread locked. Higher fuel prices do generally mean that more freight (and people) moves by rail.

More freight on the rails is a good thing from where I stand because my logistics model for a part of the company we're trying develop (construction aggregates) is actually in a sort of transportation "grey area" where both modes make sense from a dollar standpoint, but both also have their advantages and drawbacks. To take the view that high fuel prices mean higher product prices and expand upon it a little: If shorter hauls become economical for railroads again, the supply of available local trucking will increase thus decreasing that part of the pricing structure. Will that decrease in cost associated with the increase in truck supply mitigate the increase in fuel prices? I doubt it, but it just demonstrates how complex the economy is. A lot of what happens in our country is counter-intuitive to what the effect of a change in a given variable might be.

Heck, if we live in a place where a bank can recommend an investment to its customers that is meant to fail while at the same time betting against it, I won't be surprised by anything.

For now, I'll just be happy that this work means the Robbinsville Track is probably safe for a few more years. If I hear anything from Clayton that is public postable I'll put it up for consumption and debate.

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