WATCO Ithaca Central operator of NS Ithaca Secondary

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Re: Ithaca Secondary to get a new operator soon

Post by Fireman43 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:13 pm

In regards to to the power plant, was there not a plan in the 70's for NYSEG to contract a nuclear plant on adjacent property?

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Re: Ithaca Secondary to get a new operator soon

Post by Matt Langworthy » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:21 pm

A pair of SD40-2Ms (repowered SD45s) in Ithaca Central paint are currently at SK Yard in Buffalo.
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Re: Ithaca Secondary to get a new operator soon

Post by lvrr325 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:35 am

The usual Watco black with yellow nose?

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Re: Ithaca Secondary to get a new operator soon

Post by johnpbarlow » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:24 am

NS D&H and Southern Tier Facebook page posting says the 2 units are CEFX SD40-2 rebuilds in with SD45 hoods painted in UP yellow & red.

Apparently the eb NS train passing the Chesterton Rail cam at 7:23pm on 11/24/18 (seen at 4:10 in the Youtube video below) is taking the 2 SD40s to the Southern Tier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ru8Z3-5qjM

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Re: Ithaca Secondary to get a new operator soon

Post by nessman » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:33 am

Matt Langworthy wrote:The lease has been completed, so I would be surprised if STB denies Watco's application to operate the line
STB approvals are almost always just a formality.

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Re: WATCO Ithaca Central operator of NS Ithaca Secondary

Post by Matt Langworthy » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:46 am

The ICR units were spotted in Sayre yesterday.
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Re: WATCO Ithaca Central operator of NS Ithaca Secondary

Post by Matt Langworthy » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:43 am

ICR is expected to begin operations on Saturday 12/8, as per a Facebook report.
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Re: WATCO Ithaca Central operator of NS Ithaca Secondary

Post by nydepot » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:39 pm

And 12/7 on another forum.

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Re: WATCO Ithaca Central operator of NS Ithaca Secondary

Post by Matt Langworthy » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:47 pm

The post regarding 12/7 was speculation, as in don't be surprised if the operation starts on 12/7. The official word seems to be Sat 12/8. This may be a case of wishful thinking for 12/7 or it could be a scenario (similar to OMID) where the shortline unofficially does a run before the official start date. At any rate, NS H13 won't be running on the Ithaca Secondary any more.
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Re: WATCO Ithaca Central operator of NS Ithaca Secondary

Post by lvrr325 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:14 pm

Heritage on the units are one original UP SD45 and one ex-SP.

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Re: WATCO Ithaca Central operator of NS Ithaca Secondary

Post by Shortline614 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:04 pm

WATCO has created a page on their site for the Ithaca Central. Operations start tomorrow. The page does say the railroad will be shipping coal, so it will serve the Cayuga power plant, at least until it coverts to natural gas or shuts down, whichever comes first.

https://www.watcocompanies.com/services ... road-ithr/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: WATCO Ithaca Central operator of NS Ithaca Secondary

Post by Matt Langworthy » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:44 am

ICR began operations on Saturday 12/8. The train was delayed leaving Sayre because NS hadn't left a switch key for the Ithaca Central crew, but the train did get up to Ithaca later in the day. As per a Facebook report, ICR operations will be Mon-Fri in daylight.
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Re: WATCO Ithaca Central operator of NS Ithaca Secondary

Post by BR&P » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:56 pm

Matt Langworthy wrote:ICR began operations on Saturday 12/8. The train was delayed leaving Sayre because NS hadn't left a switch key for the Ithaca Central crew, but the train did get up to Ithaca later in the day. As per a Facebook report, ICR operations will be Mon-Fri in daylight.
"ICR"? Presume you mean "ITHR".

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Re: WATCO Ithaca Central operator of NS Ithaca Secondary

Post by lvrr325 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:15 am

Already some question whether two units will be enough power for loads coming up the hill out of Ithaca.

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Re: WATCO Ithaca Central operator of NS Ithaca Secondary

Post by Matt Langworthy » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:01 am

BR&P wrote:
Matt Langworthy wrote:ICR began operations on Saturday 12/8. The train was delayed leaving Sayre because NS hadn't left a switch key for the Ithaca Central crew, but the train did get up to Ithaca later in the day. As per a Facebook report, ICR operations will be Mon-Fri in daylight.
"ICR"? Presume you mean "ITHR".
Yes, the reporting marks are ITHR. Initial Facebook reports had the RR listed as ICR, but that was either in error or the reporting marks were changed before the Ithaca Cnetral RR began operations.
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